Elite IS too easy
- Thread starter Cheese Helmet
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This makes Open more interesting, but not what makes it more dangerous. What makes Open more dangerous, to the point that it isn't really fun, is that players can maximize the alpha damage on their ships to a degree that NPCs do not. If you get jumped by an NPC ship, they aren't going to pop you like a balloon within a minute of the fight starting. The battle is usually drawn out and you have time to think, strategize, and possibly escape. Even the nastiest of NPCs won't kill you that quickly. But an engineered player PvP ship? Holy crap. Unless you're in a very well armored and engineered PvP ship as well, that burst damage is going to wreck you before even finish typing "wait I'll pay" into chat lol
Was referring to senior Maynard
At the risk of derailing the thread, those who fly G5 FDLs play ED on the easiest "setting" available (regardless of mode). Real men fly shieldless Dolphins, LOL
This again, huh?! 
Btw, does anyone know a synonym for the word "problem"?
Btw, does anyone know a synonym for the word "problem"?
At the risk of derailing the thread, those who fly G5 FDLs play ED on the easiest "setting" available (regardless of mode). Real men fly shieldless Dolphins, LOL
This is why I like the off-ships, like Keelback and Alliance Challenger. The less people who fly it, the more of a POS I know it is and the more I want it to be my ship! =D
Tho for real, the challenger is a great ship and I love it.
I fly a Cobra 4....
I wouldn't call the Challenger a POS by any means. Some ships are good in their own right but have the unfortunate fate of being overshadowed by close competition.
And I just bought game for space, and its beauty. Although always tempted by space sim bcus spaceships and space flight (faoff for life). I havent seen any "dangerous" (except name obviously) advertisemets, was on sale so i gave it a try.
I mean, diffrent people have diffrent approaches to the game. I guess quite lot of buys it expecting it will be space engine with joystick.
Someone likes PVP? cool have fun in open.
But why advocating to remove pg/solo and force everyone to play pvprs game? Obviously if solo/mobius ppl would have no choice, they'd just quit. To NMS or some other.
Why OP has problem with others playing game how they want? Are they affecting you in any way (plz dont start with bgs )?
Meaby elite has been created to be dangerous, but turned out it is appealing to people that are looking for relaxing game. SO WHAT?
Also, on side note, what is dangerous in jumping on newbie? Shouldnt you try attack spear or something?
I mean, diffrent people have diffrent approaches to the game. I guess quite lot of buys it expecting it will be space engine with joystick.
Someone likes PVP? cool have fun in open.
But why advocating to remove pg/solo and force everyone to play pvprs game? Obviously if solo/mobius ppl would have no choice, they'd just quit. To NMS or some other.
Why OP has problem with others playing game how they want? Are they affecting you in any way (plz dont start with bgs )?
Meaby elite has been created to be dangerous, but turned out it is appealing to people that are looking for relaxing game. SO WHAT?
Also, on side note, what is dangerous in jumping on newbie? Shouldnt you try attack spear or something?
Honestly, any game is easy if you've played it for years. EQ1 was very dangerous with NPCs ready to attack everywhere, but after a few years you learned to waltz through dangerous areas safely. It's pretty hard for a game to remain challenging to people who have played it for five years.
As for Thargoids, they were a real danger in previous games but you could reload from a save in those games too.
The only big problem I see with challenge in this game is the wild imbalance due to engineering. Engineer up a ship and you're pretty much in PvE god mode.
As for Thargoids, they were a real danger in previous games but you could reload from a save in those games too.
The only big problem I see with challenge in this game is the wild imbalance due to engineering. Engineer up a ship and you're pretty much in PvE god mode.
Try reading the op before you beat a dead horse that’s not at hand
To be fair, thargoids aren't exactly completely invisible as they did successfully evict me from one station I was using. And people did gather to push them back but to your point that was people seeking it out rather than being sought out by what was touted as a sort of existential crisis.
At the same time it didn't help that most equipment that people invested in was useless against the larger variants.
At the same time it didn't help that most equipment that people invested in was useless against the larger variants.
Honestly i consider you as the one who keep repeating "its mean to be dangerous its meant bo be dangerous" in quite few threads.
Well if my post appear too anti-griefing then let me put it simply - apparently people enjoy Elite Safe. Want to make it dangerous for you? Stop using OP engineering. For example.
@EDIT: typo + additional thought
Another example is flying faoff all the time. Surely I dont do it always although as often as possible - gives feeling of flying actual space ship when u are docking fa off, heavier ship the better.
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I saw my first C4 (with a CMDR) ever this week! I find this fascinating considering all the salt that falls from heaven whenever the topic of making it available for everyone comes up.
We're rare....
I can see argument that seeing as how it’s currently elite:safe the people who haven’t quit either like it that way, or are holding hope for the future. That doesn’t mean that there’s not an even larger number of people who’ve played a large number of hours who’ve stopped playing because it is elite:safe.
it’d be like saying the people that are still playing anthem are the ones the games future needs to aimed at, and not the ones who’ve left dissatisfied
Yeah you nailed it. The way they let people avoid the things they want to avoid, neuters the risks. The galaxy is indeed big, and the fact the sheer volume isnt leveraged as a mechanic to let people avoid danger, safe/risky systems, is a missed opportunity.
Noone forced them to spoil their own game by using some OP features. Also most of people just master the game. I cant think about game that i considered hard after some time (I assumed dealing with enviroment/NPC + not being limited by agility or sth).
I ahvent played game for that long to discuss how certain updates affected playerbase. Here you have chart, why dont u mark updates that could explain these changes in popularity of the game. So we can all see how easy updates driven away playerbase.
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Nice chart. Show me that overlaid with players by hours played. Also, tell me who in that chart prefer elite as it is vs elite with a more dynamic sandbox
in fact. Shouldn’t consistent content updates over time have a net gain in player base rather than holding more or less steady? New people come to the game for x update, % stay, playerbase grows.
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Totally agree: if they really want to keep things separate, then go the whole hog and separate the BGS on two separate servers, one for solo/pg and one for open, it would solve various balancing problems in one go.