....The first teasers have appeared in six months. Fdev will never announce the details of the update before 2 months before its release.
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Why would you want full details disclosed before then? What happens if something turns out to not be as possible as they thought? Should they just let people know that part of what they said won't be coming? The forums would be a pretty place then... Or should they just delay the launch however long it takes to implement an idea that could end up taking 50% of their development time?Oh, do you know how a short teaser differs from the details?
I'd be happy to tell you.
Oh, look. In the short teaser you are shown some beautiful clip of 10-15 seconds that usually does not show anything concrete, and the official name of the product.
And the presentation of details, includes a more or less complete list of project content.
Now, you know how they differ.
And now, you can look back and see that the details of fdev's content were never disclosed more than 2 months before the release
Or maybe they should just announce full details when they're very close to ready to ship them?
Horizons information in August 2015, four months before 2.0 launched:Oh, do you know how a short teaser differs from the details?
I'd be happy to tell you.
Oh, look. In the short teaser you are shown some beautiful clip of 10-15 seconds that usually does not show anything concrete, and the official name of the product.
And the presentation of details, includes a more or less complete list of project content.
Now, you know how they differ.
And now, you can look back and see that the details of fdev's content were never disclosed more than 2 months before the release
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Hi everyone, Final day for the Gamescom stream tomorrow. Want to wrap it up nicely with a Horizons Q&A with producer Eddie Symons. We'll be looking through the questions to pick a few for the stream. Obviously we can only answer what we're able to! So please understand that going in. Eddie...
Beyond information at FrontierExpo 2017, four months before 3.0 launched:
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Quarter 1 is 1st January to 31st March.
I think you missed the point. The point is Sean Murray took one of the most disastrous software events gaming may ever see and turned it a complete 180 degrees. This isn’t a game that was sold through Kickstarter, then went to full release, then sold an expansion, then went on a constant downward spiral with each release. NMS is a game with a horrendous release and first year of life. But the difference between the leadership driving development of ED and Sean Murray is Sean listened to the criticism and took action. He didn’t placate the crowd, he just listened, learned, and acted.
The point is that it’s not about what you say, it’s about the results you produce. Sean and company turned their company and their franchise around. In that same time, FDev have continued to foster a divided community. The ED community management team seems to not have much to do with their job title because we seem to only hear from them when they want to tell us something really exciting is coming, that exciting thing is delayed, or someone has decided to quit employment at FDev. Only recently have the community managers been involved in actually revealing the exciting news, but their massive disconnection with the community just revealed a feature that drew a lot of criticism and puzzlement from players. Yes, I know the CMs also get involved in various charities and local community events. Good on them for that. However, those deeds are not replacements for interacting with the rest of the community. I think they can do both.
So yea, Sean and company have been kicking donkey while FDev have been sucking donkey. I don’t even care for NMS, I have no skin in that game, but I give credit where credit is due and criticize where criticism is due.
ED has some amazing features and, yes I’m going to say it, massive potential. Let’s work to help FDev make it better.
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I’m not a fan of the game, but I own it. You clearly have no idea of its progression over the last few years.
As for Sean during the development of NMS, mistakes happen. It’s how you rise up from them that reveals your character. Sean has shown strong character, learned from his mistake, and came back in a way no one would have ever expected. FDev have done... well, I guess they’ve fostered this divided community.
Nope, that’s one way of affecting change. I want change. Therefore I will continue to argue for a better Elite Dangerous.
Hi Diagbar, is this your new account? What happened to your old one?It is a shame to be a "battle fanboy" or "white knight" that protects and praises them anyway, even when it is worth scolding.
How about "excited"?
No, but I do have an idea about its regression though. I even have the save editor installed somewhere, the thing I needed to fiddle with in order to keep the POS on the road after an update because the story line was borked again, and again.
He openly and willingly deceived his early buyers (the material is there, for everyone to see), countless of times and calls it a mistake. He has as much character as the game he made...
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Over used to the point of self-parody.
NMS didn't have any backers, it wasn't a crowd funded game.
Thx, edited it. Thought it started as crowd funded game... my mistake
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Thx, edited it. Thought it started as crowd funded game... my mistake
It does not change the equation much in terms of the deception discussion tho. The succesful pre-sales and sales on release were all heavily influenced by Murray´s "messages" prior to release.
Oh I agree. It was also in the days 'Strong Character Sean' asked 60 euro's for that lie.
I suspect the pre-release videos played a part as well, but I don't have access to the data that you clearly do.
However, this is a distraction, NMS started from a bad place and has made good. Elite: Dangerous started from a good place, but as yet has failed to deliver on the list of features 'trailed' in the KickStarter.
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Viajero
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You mean kind of like all the talk about space legs and atmospherics during KS?
Well, not exactly no. In one case people actually paid for the content in pre-sales and during release based on actual statements by the developer about what the game would contain in that specific original release. On the other case the statements about that content you mentioned were clearly caveated as part of future releases and to be paid separately (except minority of LEPers) only when released at a non determined point in the future, and subject to the company views on its viability.
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