Are there many other women on here/playing Elite: Dangerous?

Dark Martin

Dark Martin
Dr Gentech said:
I don't want to make any assumptions about this place being a bit of a boy's club, so I thought I'd ask instead of assuming. My reason for asking is that I see a lot of people talking about their wife or various other... things, and not much talk the other way around.
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My daughter (19) plays, but almost all in VR, in solo, and doesn't come onto the forums or have a gendered cmdr name.
 

[VR] Dr Gentech

[VR] Dr Gentech
Flossy said:
Yes there are lots of us female players in Elite - I know of several just in my own squadron (Hutton Truckers)! I have been playing since Alpha after my husband alerted me to the Kickstarter. Although I never played the original game in 1984, I often watched while he played so was very excited about the prospect of an updated online version. We both backed the game, starting out fairly slowly but gradually increasing the pledges and ending up at Alpha level. :)
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That is so goddamn cool! Would love to hear your opinion about the game's progression since Alpha, and what you think about the space legs update (if rumours are true etc), I've been meaning to ask someone who was around since the beginning for their thoughts for a few weeks.

Jay Le Chardon said:
Glad we've came t an accord... Even if that accord is somehow, befittingly, mocking me. IRL I am a somewhat barrel-chested "beardy bloke" who can pick up most individuals and carry them on my shoulder, raised by a very stict mother, to traditional values. I'm the sort of dude who will hold a door open for a woman in a shopping mall, and stop and help a woman change a wheel on her car... And get "in the face" of anyone whos being a jerk.

The last time I used "alpha male" as an adjective to describe myself on here, some keyboard warrior cracked out a game of thrones meme about "a true alpha does not describe himself as an alpha", to which I thought "vey good, but I could probably break you like a twig over my left knee, but that was well delivered." Somewhow the idea of you laughing at that term wrankles less than the generation of a meme about it.

Anyways, I've torched my flying time on this thread, so its now way past "bed time" in my country, so its time for me to say "noot noot".
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Noot noot CMDR.

P.s. I used to teach MMA and while normally I like to poke fun at non-fighting men saying they're amazingly tough online, I must give you credit as barrel-chested men were generally the hardest for me to fight (but not to teach! Always had good experience with big polite boys who accepted they could learn something from me). Moving faster while being stable and keeping good form and technique will win you a lot of fights, but it didn't do me much good against someone literally three times my weight when I tried a front defensive kick/push kick. Rude awakening that I really had to pay attention to the whole "unarmoured points" thing and getting out of the way against certain opponents, no matter how well I was planted. That and grappling with them sucked because while of course my core is stronger than even a big man's arm and no one has muscle or fat protecting their carotid (can even make it easier, skinny necks are hard to correctly place and set on for me), it never feels good having to rely on rules or pain to protect you from them literally picking you up while you're torquing their elbow. Or more annoying for them, flopping on you. Not skillfully applying pressure, pushing off with toes or anything, literal flopping. It's worst for them because they can't learn anything at all from it, it's okay-ish for me because at least I can practice getting out from pressure and choking from a compromised position. But I digress. Feel good about your body type because it is actually a bit tougher than average :) you will need to train if you want to reliably win actual fights though. Just please never call yourself a chivalrous alpha male again you made ME blush from embarassment and I'm not even you

Guizin239 said:
does gay count?
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I was planning to wait a few months before daring to ask if there were other LGBT CMDRs but seeing as you brought it up, hell yeah it does!

Unless you mean "does gay count as being a woman?" because in that case uhh, that one's on you to decide, not me :)

Kloppage Time said:
I've finished wading through this thread like an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping &...well, it started rather badly, tailed off towards the middle & the less said about the end, the better! (Let's play "Spot The Plagiarism")

'Second time I've been very surprised today, after reading this headline...
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Who cares?! Man, woman, hermaphrodite - is that all of the options? I don't want to offend anyone - is all but irrelevant to flying a spaceship with other sad dorks who also have nothing else to occupy their empty days & nights until they shuffle off this mortal coil. One thing is for sure, on our death beds we'll have no regrets that we've wasted our lives, right?!

...RIGHT?

...Hello??
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I'm glad you don't want to offend anyone :) towards that end, you should know that the word hermaphrodite is no longer used to refer to human beings, and you're probably thinking of intersex people. They're a broad spectrum of people though, so not everything you may associate with the word hermaphrodite is applicable to intersex people. Feel free to ask me if you'd like to understand more!

Dark Martin said:
My daughter (19) plays, but almost all in VR, in solo, and doesn't come onto the forums or have a gendered cmdr name.
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Nice, I really want to start playing in VR at some point. It would just involve a lot of steps, like transferring my account to PC (also lets me get a good HOTAS so net positive), upgrading my partner's PC hardware to be VR capable, and buying a VR headset. Those things are expensive and I'd want value for money (so something like a Quest), but I've heard the Oculus Link software isn't that great for games with text so atm I'm thinking of holding out for the Quest 2/Del Mar headsets whenever that launches. I'm okay to wait, just gives me more time to save up so it can be something I'll enjoy. What's your daughter's VR setup like?
 

[VR] Dr Gentech

[VR] Dr Gentech
Here you go everyone, some links for your perusal:
1. What is intersex: https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/
2. What is the history of intersex conditions in society? https://isna.org/faq/history/
3. A scientific paper on the change from a medical ethics point of view: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16200837/
4. If you have the time for a book, chapter five of Intersex and the Age of Ethics by Alice Dreger (from the Ethics in Clinical Medicine series by the New England Journal of Medicine) discusses the change specifically.

Reading those (or even one of those) should give you a very workable understanding of what intersex is, why the word hermaphrodite is no longer used scientifically, and what the issues with it are. If your organisation or library can't get you access to the PubMed paper, feel free to hit me up and I can provide you with a sanctioned legal copy I've got lying around. Unfortunately I don't have a stack of books to mail out or I'd offer that too ;)
 

cheesenbiscuits

cheesenbiscuits
Dr Gentech said:
Here you go everyone, some links for your perusal:
1. What is intersex: https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/
2. What is the history of intersex conditions in society? https://isna.org/faq/history/
3. A scientific paper on the change from a medical ethics point of view: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16200837/
4. If you have the time for a book, chapter five of Intersex and the Age of Ethics by Alice Dreger (from the Ethics in Clinical Medicine series by the New England Journal of Medicine) discusses the change specifically.

Reading those (or even one of those) should give you a very workable understanding of what intersex is, why the word hermaphrodite is no longer used scientifically, and what the issues with it are. If your organisation or library can't get you access to the PubMed paper, feel free to hit me up and I can provide you with a sanctioned legal copy I've got lying around. Unfortunately I don't have a stack of books to mail out or I'd offer that too ;)
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You didn't google it then ;)
 

cheesenbiscuits

cheesenbiscuits
Pigletslastand said:
Maybe used Bing instead?
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Well i won't mention what the top answer was,let's just say it isn't cat video's!
"The term hermaphrodite derives from Hermaphroditus, the Greek mythological child of Hermes and Aphrodite. Born a handsome boy, he was transformed into an androgynous being by union with the nymph Salmacis." Huh,the things you learn.
 

[VR] Dr Gentech

[VR] Dr Gentech
cheesenbiscuits said:
You didn't google it then ;)
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I did actually, because I was wondering why exactly you were so misled. I saw the issue straight away, so I decided something I could do to help you out would be to collate actual scientific, medical, and institutional resources for you. So you don't need to rely on Google for your understanding of medical science, which can be an iffy proposition sometimes.

cheesenbiscuits said:
Well i won't mention what the top answer was,let's just say it isn't cat video's!
"The term hermaphrodite derives from Hermaphroditus, the Greek mythological child of Hermes and Aphrodite. Born a handsome boy, he was transformed into an androgynous being by union with the nymph Salmacis." Huh,the things you learn.
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Yes, it's really quite interesting the origins of the term and the internecine workings of ancient Greek mythology! Unfortunately, mythology is rarely particularly informative when it comes to medical science. Sometimes it can even be misleading! I hope you'll read some of those links I posted, they represent the current best standard of medical care and terminology.
 
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