ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement

[Scubadog]

Someone who only plays in VR mentioned about the time put in to get a Fleet Carrier they will not use in Odyssey.

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

 

[Dooguk]

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

It's easy if you know we are talking about playing in VR. He won't see it in Odyssey because he won't be playing it.

 

[Scubadog]

Probably stupid question:

As per my toys-out-the-pram posts above I'm v upset at no VR support for Odyssey and will likely be saying a sad goodbye to ED

but

How possible/easy is it to switch from VR to pancake modes in-game? I've never had to do that in a VR game before because other games don't do such ridiculous things so I don't know but I suspect you can't easily swap in and out of something mid-game. I mean, there's the mirrored screen thing but that's not good enough to play on I don't think. Not sure how it would work.

So perhaps if as an interim measure, devs could come up with a clean VR to pancake transition that works easily or something? Then, while much less than ideal, one could land on a planet, take off HMD, do a bit of walking around and then jump back in the ship again and continue playing in VR. That might keep some VR players in the game if it works well enough?

I suppose that's fine if you are okay with taking off and putting on the VR rig every time you switch between Odyssey and Horizons (or Odyssey and Core). That 100% breaks the immersion, so it's not something I'm willing to accept. I'll just stay in VR without Odyssey as long as they continue to support Horizons and I can still play most of the time in the same instance as my squadron mates.

 

[Stanis]

It sounds like a lot of people have - it goes without saying that if you spend big money on hardware which is wholly dependent on one piece of 3rd party software you have no control over, then you`ve got to accept that one day, you will probably get hung out to dry. Not nice, but inevitable. Generically speaking - if you get 5 years out of such a setup before support is pulled, you're doing okay.

Not quite agree.

A game company that drops an already implemented feature during an upgrade is rather rare.

 

[Riverside]

Not quite agree.

A game company that drops an already implemented feature during an upgrade is rather rare.

It is not being included (initially, maybe) in an optional DLC. Nothing (VR-related) is being removed from the main game according to what we have been told in this very thread

 

[VR captpopup]

I have tried really hard today to get to grips with flying in pancake mode.
I tried for two hours
I really don't get it... I don't understand the decision. As a teacher of design and technology (retired) the emphasis has always been learn from the past and move forwards into the future, learn from the prototype and make the next version better. VR will move forwards... it will get better in every way... it will develop... others will utilise it to great effect... and Elite will lose out, not financially but in being the vanguard... rather than the broom wagon. It is such a shame.

Yes... my pain is still with me.

I wont be trying 2D again... it's just not the same fully immersed experience. I have 8 months... maybe 9 of being on the same page as every other player... well perhaps not on the same page but at least reading from the same book, and then it's Horizons only if and when I fly.

Off to make a space ship out of a cardboard box, some string and sticky tape and utilise my own imagination.

Thank you to all who have contributed to these 241 pages... hope to see you in Horizons Open at some point before the lights go out.

cmdr R P Taylor

 

[Dooguk]

I have tried really hard today to get to grips with flying in pancake mode.
I tried for two hours
I really don't get it... I don't understand the decision. As a teacher of design and technology (retired) the emphasis has always been learn from the past and move forwards into the future, learn from the prototype and make the next version better. VR will move forwards... it will get better in every way... it will develop... others will utilise it to great effect... and Elite will lose out, not financially but in being the vanguard... rather than the broom wagon. It is such a shame.

Yes... my pain is still with me.

I wont be trying 2D again... it's just not the same fully immersed experience. I have 8 months... maybe 9 of being on the same page as every other player... well perhaps not on the same page but at least reading from the same book, and then it's Horizons only if and when I fly.

Off to make a space ship out of a cardboard box, some string and sticky tape and utilise my own imagination.

Thank you to all who have contributed to these 241 pages... hope to see you in Horizons Open at some point before the lights go out.

cmdr R P Taylor

Why would anyone want to go back. Would you go back to watching terrestrial TV. Would you go back to watching it in black and white. Would you go back to CRT monitors that weigh an absolute ton. (somebody is going to say yes to that, I just know it) Phones with no touch screens. It should be about going forwards. It really should.
Anyway, stick around to fight the good fight. We need every Commander we can get.

 

[Hal Miller]

Love this, there will always be haters. Just like WoW there will be those naysayers that complain about it though they still pay their monthly sub and purchase the current expansion. Take my money!!!

 

[Oldviboy]

Why would anyone want to go back. Would you go back to watching terrestrial TV. Would you go back to watching it in black and white. Would you go back to CRT monitors that weigh an absolute ton. (somebody is going to say yes to that, I just know it) Phones with no touch screens. It should be about going forwards. It really should.
Anyway, stick around to fight the good fight. We need every Commander we can get.

Would you leave real life behind for a virtual world? Go to the theater or something, going outside sometimes help you, guys. What a drama you are putting together for something that will not come out until, at least ,a year or more.


look at the game now, in a year it will be worse, don't worry.

 

[Ghural]

I guarantee that the vast majority of those players claiming that they won't be playing Elite ever again because Odyssey doesn't have "blah blah blah" will be there on day one downloading it like the rest of us.

 

[Dooguk]

Would you leave real life behind for a virtual world? Go to the theater or something, going outside sometimes help you, guys. What a drama you are putting together for something that will not come out until, at least ,a year or more.


look at the game now, in a year it will be worse, don't worry.

Just using examples of things I don't think people would want to go back to. If you think this game is important to me you would be wrong and I'm sorry if I gave that impression. It's a video game, it's a bit of escapism that's all. Maybe we just want the hobby that we partake in to be the best it can. Is there something wrong with that?
Also, please don't be too judgemental about peoples lives, as you don't know their circumstances.

 

[Dooguk]

I guarantee that the vast majority of those players claiming that they won't be playing Elite ever again because Odyssey doesn't have "blah blah blah" will be there on day one downloading it like the rest of us.

Why do you even have to say that?

 

[kermitkong]

Hi Frontier,

i really really disappointed and it makes me really sad!
If no VR for future Elite dangerous, I will stop my journey through the galaxy.

no VR no elite dangerous anymore , It make no sense.

Frontier do you want to do so like stupid other games ?

so painful to here that, to stop VR support, really unbelievable, what a f**cking manager decision, really really wrong!

CMDR
Kermit Kong

 

[Tom Jacobs]

I have custom lenses that fit on top of the VR lenses...

i know these exist but my eyes are too far off or i'd have a piece of 1cm thick glass ...

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

So VR players will not be allowed to interact with anyone that has the "expansion"? Kind of kills the whole multiplayer aspect .

No that's not what is being said. If you play using the expansion it does not support VR. If you're in space or on a non atmospheric planet, then you can interact with anyone from horizons or the base game as normal. Base game and horizons players do not get the walking part or the atmospheric that are coming in Odyssey as is standard for most computer expansions.

 

[F4fred]

I am not saying you are wrong however we had an entire 2 years+ "free" expansion who's primary function was as an apology to the playerbase for delays and to get the core game in order then a further 6 month delay of fleet carriers also the squash bugs and make sure the game was working properly.
Just how many years can FD be expected to have as a free pass to sort out the game whilst still staying current and in players interest.?
Horizons was heavily intimated to be a year with some wiggle room to go over . I think waiting 6 years for the 2nd paid expansion is not being too impatient.

Things could be worse. We could be 6 years in and still in alpha!

 

[F4fred]

Well looks like VR purchase on hold. Just bought a Virpil HOTAS. It is pricey, but those who have them say the best stick and throttle available. When you can get them that is. Primarily for DCS, but should be good with ED too.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Why would anyone want to go back. Would you go back to watching terrestrial TV. Would you go back to watching it in black and white. Would you go back to CRT monitors that weigh an absolute ton. (somebody is going to say yes to that, I just know it) Phones with no touch screens. It should be about going forwards. It really should.
Anyway, stick around to fight the good fight. We need every Commander we can get.

Whilst I agree with you in principle the pedant in me has to say, CRTs spank modern monitors and TVs for a lot of my gaming. I had to replace the CRT screen in my arcade cab and it is not even close to as good. I would love to go back

Other than that I agree fully am just being obtuse

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Love this, there will always be haters. Just like WoW there will be those naysayers that complain about it though they still pay their monthly sub and purchase the current expansion. Take my money!!!

I don't think it is honest calling those having their primary way they play the game not having support in their new content as haters.
At some point maybe the primary feature you play the game for will get removed and then you can get some understanding.
I almost wish FD would say due to the new and exciting features of the game it really didn't work in a competitive environment with our networking so ED:O will be single player only.
Once enough salt has been extracted then. Few months later follow up with
After feedback from our players MP is back in however so we can balance properly the game will ONLY be MP so all modes other than open will be dropped on all 3 platforms.

 

[Dooguk]

Whilst I agree with you in principle the pedant in me has to say, CRTs spank modern monitors and TVs for a lot of my gaming. I had to replace the CRT screen in my arcade cab and it is not even close to as good. I would love to go back

Other than that I agree fully am just being obtuse

Imagine what kind of desk you would need for a large widescreen CRT monitor.