OK, if you only want more consistent infos, I will just stick on those sort of infos.
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Well, i think first off you need to understand that many here are pretty avid followers of SC anyway. Although we do present a jaundiced view of the project.
But if you feel the need to share info, share info about things CIG have actually delivered on, not dreams.txt
Not yet...
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I'm not nosy by nature but I really want to know what is up with that.
Now its even more transparent?
“However, in the two years since, the Public Roadmap, as an estimation of what will be delivered by a certain time, has become less representative of our actual progress.”
Good news, that's not what a roadmap is for so that was never an issue.
“We have over 450 developers working tirelessly every day on Star Citizen and Squadron 42.”
Huh… where did the rest go?
“Currently, features and content that we do not have a definitive release date for, even when they are being actively worked on, do not get displayed on the Public Roadmap. Some who follow us understand that just because something is not on the roadmap does not mean it’s not being actively developed.”
So you don't understand what a roadmap is, and that is also true for some who follow you. Check.
“Our new Public Roadmap will instead do what we intended to do when we first deployed the current one: show you more of what we are doing.”
That is not what a roadmap is or what it's for.
“This is a big sea change. Instead of a curated set of features, tech, or content we have confidence in delivering by a set time, we want to show you everything…or nearly everything. There will obviously be things we keep behind closed doors, such as big spoilers like the [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] for Squadron 42.”
Good news: there is no need to display spoilers on a roadmap — unless you are a drooling basketcase, you can reference what's being worked on without spoiling content or how it will be used in the final game.
“One key point we want to emphasize with this new Public Roadmap is that this is a progress tracker.”
In other words, it's not a roadmap.
“With agile development, all of that is subject to change.”
Gee. I wonder if that's the reason why you don't put sprints on the roadmap, but rather the actual milestones and deliverables that those sprints will lead up to.
“One of our overarching goals of this Public Roadmap overhaul is to show you what all our teams are working on so you can see the scale and breadth of work on our plates. You will also see our priorities, as obviously what is most important, urgent, or needed will be our immediate sprints, while after that will be what is next most important, urgent, or needed, and so on and so forth down the quarter or quarters.”
So even less of a roadmap than ever before.
“A Work-In-Progress Look at our New Public Roadmap”
Huh, funny that… you just explained in glorious detail that you will not publish any kind of roadmap.
This whole article could be reduced to a very simple image.
Good news, that's not what a roadmap is for so that was never an issue.
“We have over 450 developers working tirelessly every day on Star Citizen and Squadron 42.”
Huh… where did the rest go?
“Currently, features and content that we do not have a definitive release date for, even when they are being actively worked on, do not get displayed on the Public Roadmap. Some who follow us understand that just because something is not on the roadmap does not mean it’s not being actively developed.”
So you don't understand what a roadmap is, and that is also true for some who follow you. Check.
“Our new Public Roadmap will instead do what we intended to do when we first deployed the current one: show you more of what we are doing.”
That is not what a roadmap is or what it's for.
“This is a big sea change. Instead of a curated set of features, tech, or content we have confidence in delivering by a set time, we want to show you everything…or nearly everything. There will obviously be things we keep behind closed doors, such as big spoilers like the [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] for Squadron 42.”
Good news: there is no need to display spoilers on a roadmap — unless you are a drooling basketcase, you can reference what's being worked on without spoiling content or how it will be used in the final game.
“One key point we want to emphasize with this new Public Roadmap is that this is a progress tracker.”
In other words, it's not a roadmap.
“With agile development, all of that is subject to change.”
Gee. I wonder if that's the reason why you don't put sprints on the roadmap, but rather the actual milestones and deliverables that those sprints will lead up to.
“One of our overarching goals of this Public Roadmap overhaul is to show you what all our teams are working on so you can see the scale and breadth of work on our plates. You will also see our priorities, as obviously what is most important, urgent, or needed will be our immediate sprints, while after that will be what is next most important, urgent, or needed, and so on and so forth down the quarter or quarters.”
So even less of a roadmap than ever before.
“A Work-In-Progress Look at our New Public Roadmap”
Huh, funny that… you just explained in glorious detail that you will not publish any kind of roadmap.
This whole article could be reduced to a very simple image.
Now it's even less of a roadmap, and it explicitly and deliberately leaves things out for no intelligent reason.
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You might say this new roadmap punches above its weight!
Great, it took weeks, not months!!The roadmap for the roadmap is here! REJOICE!
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“Currently, features and content that we do not have a definitive release date for, even when they are being actively worked on, do not get displayed on the Public Roadmap."
So, Ci-G is doing some shyte, doesn't know itself when it will be done, doesn't tell anyone what that shyte is. Most transparent development ever!
I think it actually does the opposite.
And IIRC CI-G already had a progress tracker, before they scrapped that and replaced with the roadmap that was scrapped in March.
Wow - such garbage.The roadmap for the roadmap is here! REJOICE!
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Their 'example' was 17 sprints long (6 sprints per quarter = 9 months for that 'task'). You would not normally schedule like this - normally you would put multiple tasks into a single sprint, not a single task into multiple sprints. And the description is ... the opposite of a description. Word salad. Useless.
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1) We still don't have a roadmap we can release, but here, look at this pretty Gantt chart.
2) No indiciation of when SQ42 will actually be in a releasable state.
Prediction: The actual roadmap, should it ever appear, will not show progress right through to release. We will see a few months ahead at best, maybe half a year. With no indiciation how close to completion SQ42 actually is.
Bonus prediction: Mocap! Lots of mocap!
Ummm.... i'm not sure CIG understand roadmap development.
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Maybe there's a limitation because you've been using it for something it's not.
All this paragraph is saying CIG decided to do something, unable to do it because of reasons. It's bad that people mistaken something entirely out of CIG's control and they're going to make it better. It 's CIG who decided not to put an ETA on what's being worked on, and it's not a quirk, it's inability to deliver on what CIG defined as their currently working on.
There's a joke here somewhere.
Yay, they're refactoring the roadmap. It's about time and kind of expected, they've refactored everything else and this is the few things left. Maybe they'll need to re-launch the website next because it was blocking SC development.
When it comes down to it, there is no progress. There is so little develpment on the actual game they had to draw attention on the roadmap and not the actual features themselves. This is the least effeort thing they could do to let everyone know they're still alive, not working on the game, they clearly stated they're not promising what's on the new roadmap are what they're working on, so its worthless. Transparency?
TLDR: An essay version of "I can't make it that day, I had to do something".
Love how they set up agile development as an excuse for every single self imposed deadline they fail to hit.
I think in the company i worked for if any project manager tried to tell a client or their manager something like this they would be looking for a new job.
I think in the company i worked for if any project manager tried to tell a client or their manager something like this they would be looking for a new job.
Maybe someone like Mole should suggest CIG switch to something else. Clearly Agile isn't working for them.
We obviously just don't understand roadmaps.
About as much of a roadmap as that image LittleAnt posted earlier purporting to show roads.
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