Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
I hope all you loons and quines are enjoying the new SW game!

For me - it's just like the SQ42 beta.

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[VR] Merkir

[VR] Merkir
Catching up, and summarising...

CIG didn't release SQ42 Beta within their estimated Q3 release window.
CIG's new SQ42 roadmap is still in a pipeline.
CIG hasn't given any communication regarding new timing for either of the above.
The Frontier forums SC thread has been overrun by Star Wars Squadrons.

Is that a reasonable summary? 😀
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Why - AAA^A^A developers why?

Why can't you release games when you say you will?

Why can't you also - after all these decades - even query the local machine for display and scale accordingly?

Why do you insist on inflicting such nonsense on us poor triple screen gamers?

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Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
sovapid said:
VPN for time travel
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Maybe - but I like my transits raw and unbuttered :D

Anyway - I got it running after a while - and I have to admit it's the absolute worst game ever. I haven't found a single bed to sleep in so far, I've not clipped through any ships, and they seem to have forgotten to include any elevators whatsoever.

From what little time I was able to deign for "testing" this abomination - it wasn't clear if Argon was present in the cockpit. I saw no Sandwurmies. I could not find a single bartender to fix me a drink. There were no Big Bennys machines around or gravitional well hotdog vendors.

All I could find was moving identifiable ships around in a narrated combat experience that has alleged lore and background in a 'Verse that doesn't even have the richness of renaming the Stanton. It doesn't even have a Stanton! Or a Morrow! Or a Tour!

I shall certainly be buying more Idrises to voice my complaints!
 

Arcondes

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MTBFritz said:
wait....40 bucks for a FULL game? That cant be right. Does the tie fighter cost extra? Or is it just a loaner? What about when somebody kills you? Do you have to wait till the game retrieves the ship for you or do you have to cough up some extra cash to speed things up? How is it that this company can produce a full game including a single player campaign...in VR and charge less then other companies want for a tech demo? How does that work?

Confused.

You see. It never has been about jealousy or "hatin" on poor poor Star Citizen. Its just that other companies and development teams constantly show CIG up and demonstrate how "its done" and what to do and more importingly...whats possible. And then you look back at CIG and Star Citizen and you start to wonder why these guys dont manage the same even tho they had more time, a bigger team (how many guys was it? 630?) and way way more money.

Star Citizen is constantly claiming to be bigger, better, more then oither games and thats why those other games dont count but is that really important anymore when backers just want a game to stretch their legs in? Maybe with friends and add in some small games to keep everybody busy? Its no secret that SCs scope is also its downfall cuz its paired with the ego of a control freak who has no clue about the industry. Maybe Turbine will make a less-then-terrible couch-party-game out of SC in a couple years?
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The Tie‘s and the new Republic ships also did not have LTI. Yes for an Side project of the devs this game. Is realy good.
 

Firkrayt

Firkrayt
[VR] Mr Teatime said:
I was going to say blame General Dynamics with the F16's Dogfight Mode switch on the throttle, which is memory serves immediately sets the aircraft up with a close range radar mode (boresight possibly), selects sidewinders (if available) and M61 gun and adjusts the HUD accordingly, but these A10 ninja's got in first ;)
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By "adjusts the HUD accordingly" you mean it is tinted blue on the edges?
Are half of non-weapon functions disabled too?
If no, then it's not a Proper(tm) HUD Mode.
 

LittleAnt

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Agony_Aunt said:
The supposed tools you mention are of benfit either way, in house or for contractors, so have nothing to do with the situation.
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Which situation ?
The 'supposed' tools will be used in house AND by contractors. CIG want to multiply the creative teams and that's what they do. More parralel teams on same work with same tools = faster delivery of systems.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
LittleAnt said:
Which situation ?
The 'supposed' tools will be used in house AND by contractors. CIG want to multiply the creative teams and that's what they do. More parralel teams on same work with same tools = faster delivery of systems.
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My point being that they help both internal and external teams equally.

You're making an assumption that overall there will be more teams/employees working on things. That is not confirmed. Its possible they are ramping down at CIG and ramping up their use of contractors.

Unless you have some evidence that CIG are actually increasing the overall number of employees working on the things the tools are used for.
 

dayrth

Volunteer Moderator
dayrth
Asp Explorer said:
...I haven't found a single bed to sleep in so far, I've not clipped through any ships, and they seem to have forgotten to include any elevators whatsoever.

.... it wasn't clear if Argon was present in the cockpit. I saw no Sandwurmies. I could not find a single bartender to fix me a drink. There were no Big Bennys machines around or gravitional well hotdog vendors.
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It's almost as if they don't think any of that stuff matters o_O
 

LittleAnt

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Firkrayt said:
Dear sir, I regret you inform that you know nothing about game development.
It just doesn't work that way.
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Don't think you know more than I do about game development. Je suis limité par ma connaissance de l'anglais mais si je pouvais parler français ici je vous en ferait des pavés. Parallelization is never used in gaming industry to release (maps for instance) ? And the gaming industry never use man-hour to estimate a delivery rate on content ? The power of the tools, number of creators and their efficiency are the three main elements to estimate a delivery rate. Increase/decrease one item and the rate increase/decrease. We don't know the real power of CIG tools (seem good when we see it in action in dev video). We don't know how many creators they have now to create planets. So guessing the delivery rate is not possible atm.

Agony_Aunt said:
Unless you have some evidence that CIG are actually increasing the overall number of employees working on the things the tools are used for.
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I have no evidence. We don't know exactly how many persons work on creating planets inside/outside of CIG. My guess is CIG will increase them at a given time and the fact that Turbulent have a team dedicated to it now can be a sign that the "given time" is now.
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
LittleAnt said:
The power of the tools, number of creators and their efficiency are the three main elements to estimate a delivery rate. Increase/decrease one item and the rate increase/decrease. We don't know the real power of CIG tools (seem good when we see it in action in dev video).
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Don't forget specs, processes and workflows. If they're not meticulously designed by CIG, they're good to waste tremendous times on review and validations at best, at worst they're working for nothing as all will have to be reworked (see Illfonic). And if Turbulent have to work on things for which underlying techs, pipelines are not yet ready or even designed on CIG side it's the same: work for nothing (see: the refactor-mania at CIG)
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Viajero
Mole HD said:
As for Squadrons...not playing it. It doesn't recognise my HOTAS throttle. I can either play with an Xbox controller or half a HOTAS, not doing either so it's heading for an uninstall :)
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I will be probably giving it a spin this weekend, wish me luck!
 
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