Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Sidenote, CP77 has been officially put back in a 'not released' state by Sony.
So the saviour of PC gaming Star Citizen is good again by being compared to a completely different game on consoles that are, by gaming standards, out of date. What about telling the console owners to upgrade, like SC zealots are quick enough to blame other backers hardware for the crap performance of SC? Do I need to point out again that this game is from a company that never took one penny off me until the game was released. You'll have to do better than that in your blinkered defending of all things Roberts.
Put your hand in your pocket for a change and buy an Idris.
 
Obviously it was released too early, chaps needed more time to polish it. And this is why it is fine for SC to take another less than 10 or more than 20 years before releasing. Holy Roberts was right all along, we just don't understand his genius!
Fun thing is CIG aren't bound to ultimatums (apart from their own self imposed they happily never respect) yet they can't help but crunch, work over the weekend, release on Friday or right before holidays.
 
yet they can't help but crunch, work over the weekend, release on Friday
As Holy Roberts said, his employees should be Americans, not American'ts. So this is perfectly natural order of things at CI-G.

What about telling the console owners to upgrade
Already done! "What did you expect from 7-year old hardware" is the motto. Well, maybe they expected something like GTAV, TLOU, Horizon Zero Dawn, RDR2, TLOU2, Spiderman, I dunno. All these games worked fine on last-gen consoles, with better-than-CP2077 graphics, decent (for a console game) performance, and did not crashed every 20-30 minutes.

but it is released and works fine on PC. The same can not be said for SC.
Nah, let's stay with Playstation. Sony not only pulled the game from the store, but offered a refund for any buyer that wants it.
Because CDPR had clearly stated that they maybe fix the bugs in console versions, but the overall graphics and, most importantly, performance - will not improve. Applying the same to CI-G and SC, as whiteknighters do, means that SC maybe will get rid of bugs, but it will not improve. No SSOCS, iCache, Server Meshing or any other magic word will change a thing.
CI-G, being a publisher itself, should do exactly the same thing Sony did: pull the SC from the Pledge Store and offer refunds for all backers that ask for it. Because SC sucks as a game even if we take its bugs off the table.

This is the way.
 
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How can anyone not see this as an intentional lie?
it was established a couple of months ago that @La doesn't lie. Even when he replaces "removing from store" with "put back in a 'not released'".


Meanwhile, there is new merchandise for thargoid lovers. It's a steal! (pun intended)
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NSFW gun pikk!

And some fun from SA:
Elevator panels disappeared when I approached to try and click them.
I discovered if you hold F and walk up to it, the panel doesn't disappear.
And if you crawl, it even works! Pay respects for elevator panel!
 
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A bit of lore:
The most comprehensive historians of the Backers culture are actually FUDsters and that only goes back as far as our first interactions with them. The Backers belief that one should always live in the present has created a cultural mentality that disregards facts of the past. To that end, while technical knowledge will be preserved (until they come across a better design), all other facts (historical deadlines, key promises, even their own justifications) have been lost to the ages. So, while FUDsters place great value on deeds and noteworthy actions, to the Backers it is the accumulation of virtual ships that truly represents a life well spent.
 
I mean, it's the natural evolution of the thing, isn't it? Ant cannot for the life of him come up with anything remotely positive to say about SC so he must at all cost post nothing but off-topic nonsense, and when that inevitably fails to paint SC in a positive light, his only way out is to ramp it up to outright lying. This will of course also not SC in a positive light, but what else can he do?
 
it was established a couple of months ago that @La doesn't lie.


Nah, I just said having some evidence of poor faith argument / deliberate misrepresentation always helps. Rather than just casting every misguided backer belief as a deliberate attempt to distort reality. Sometimes they genuinely just don't know what they're talking about ;)

(Ant's latest example is a lot closer to wilful misrepresentation though for sure ;))
 

Oooh, that's a funny one.

Love how they list the things coming next year at the end. Pretty sure those were things people were thinking they were getting this year. They did miss salvage though! That's usually on ever prediction for the coming year.

Quotes of course are golden.

Imagine where we will be in another 3 years.

Yeah, just imagine. But my money is still on pre-alpha. Who knows, maybe SQ54 will have released.

Obviously 2020 was light on PU content with covid slowing things down and cigs focus to SQ42.

CIG - COVID hasn't affected us significantly. Not sure why people keep talking about covid slowing them down when CIG says it didn't.

I'd be completely fine with delaying SQ42, hell I'd be fine with completely scrapping it in favor of additional resources for Star Citizen's development.
People will stay for SC, not SQ42.

Yes, sure, CIG should throw out yet another thing they promised. That will reinforce their image of being a trustworthy company. Perhaps if they refunded everyone for their SQ42 pledges.

Some humour as well

The 325 has a working coffee maker. I’m calling the game done at this point.

Oooh, an optimist

We will have all this things in 2021, Crusader is already planned for Q1 and Q2, iCache for Q2, server meshing and Pyro probably for Q3 and Q4.

Bemused by this one

Year well after a year of what felt like black strike through lines all over the roadmap every week I wanted to look at a screen full of green ticks. I find it very carthartic.

Umm.... so he knows how bad it has been, but its nice to pretend it hasn;t?
 
We have a Cyberpunk thread if anyone would like to discuss it there.
I think it's not about CP2077 by itself, only about the shadow it casts over the SC development. By some twist of logic SC whiteknighters find CP2077 absolving the sins of SC, CI-G and Holy Roberts himself. Like "oh, look, it was in development for 8 years, twice as long as SC", "all the bugs will be squashed in two days before the release, you will see", "oh, they weren't? This is why CRobber should take even more moneytime and don't release now" and (I hope) eventual "see, it took CDPR just half a year to actually fix the bugs on PC, in half a year after it is released in 2030 SC will become awesome".

CP2077 is not the subject, it's just a means to justify the sorry state of SC.
 
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