They'd actually deserve it too..
But not really going to happen(well except ruining their reputation of course). The sales of the PC version alone so far has more than covered the development costs afaik.
Perhaps they should stick to PC from now on.
After the Cyperpunk 2077 debacle, I hope there's a beta for Odyssey on base consoles
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They'd actually deserve it too..
But not really going to happen(well except ruining their reputation of course). The sales of the PC version alone so far has more than covered the development costs afaik.
Perhaps they should stick to PC from now on.
It's a shame really because much of the fury generated toward them is manufactured. Angry Joe's channel for instance made a 45 min rant about the game based on clips from round reddit. I could rubbish most games by doing that myself by finding other peoples clips of their experiences especially in an open world game.
I dont deny the older consoles have had difficulties but they appear to be much reduced after 1.05 patch I'm given to believe.
How many console titles can you think of that got ported to PC were and still remain absolute trash on PC over the years.
The gaming media want clicks and nothing clicks better than schizzling on what they are supposed to be supporting in this strange time we live in.
I dont deny the older consoles have had difficulties but they appear to be much reduced after 1.05 patch I'm given to believe.
How many console titles can you think of that got ported to PC were and still remain absolute trash on PC over the years.
The gaming media want clicks and nothing clicks better than schizzling on what they are supposed to be supporting in this strange time we live in.
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We've definitely ended up in a world where games, whether indie or AAA, are somewhere between "Early access" and "Done" on release due to the nature of patching (day one being the worst of it) and our collective allowance of it. Games like 2077 are shareholder bound, so the poor sods working on it get wrapped up in the debacle when I'm damned sure internal meetings have them pleading for more time before release, but milestones and $ signs rule the roost.
CD Projekt should be blamed, but like any company I work for, the company is more than a logo - I'd hate to "blamed" for something I had nothing to do with, so I try to think beyond that initial annoyance about those behind the scenes. I also never play games on release (and aren't we all very aware of avoiding major patch releases on ED?), and usually jump in a year later... again, a result of things like 2077 being a hot mess on day one.
Anyway, where was I going... yes, Odyssey. I'm not sure you can related Odyssey and 2077; one IS an expansion to an established game, albeit a (hopeful) code refresh, so more "new" than "old", but I don't think we'll see the base Xbox dying on it's rear in quite the same way. I hope I'm not wrong.
CD Projekt should be blamed, but like any company I work for, the company is more than a logo - I'd hate to "blamed" for something I had nothing to do with, so I try to think beyond that initial annoyance about those behind the scenes. I also never play games on release (and aren't we all very aware of avoiding major patch releases on ED?), and usually jump in a year later... again, a result of things like 2077 being a hot mess on day one.
Anyway, where was I going... yes, Odyssey. I'm not sure you can related Odyssey and 2077; one IS an expansion to an established game, albeit a (hopeful) code refresh, so more "new" than "old", but I don't think we'll see the base Xbox dying on it's rear in quite the same way. I hope I'm not wrong.
Well, that is one way to kill the product dead, I suppose
(Could have been worse... You might have suggested Farcebook!)
As much as I (as a Xbox player) love the steps MS has made to strength Xbox 1st Party (23 Studios + Bethesda), I think they should steer well clear of CDPR for now. Anyone who buys them needs to clean out most if not all of the leadership team, and some of the marketing team if the transphobia comments they've made on social media is any indication.
They'll be fine.
CP2077 had over one million cuncurrent players on steam alone on release day. It broke the cuncurrent user record by more than doubling the previous record.
They'll make (actually already made) enourmous piles of cash, even if every single console player on the planet asks for a refund.
I do hope the gaming industry learns something from this though.
The player base were conned . This is not the game we expected.
Feel sorry for the devs at the coalface. They'd busted a gut to get the game to the shabby poor state it was on release, and they'd have known it wasn't ready for release, but those above them would have made the decision regardless. You can only imagine the state it was in subsequent to the two delays...
The levels of emotional involvement is too high for many people. They're simply not in control of themselves and allow their feelings to be owned by and swept away with marketing hype.
I hope those people learn a lesson as well as developers trailing software release dates so far in advance of knowing whether they're likely to be met.
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There have been many crappy console ports to PC. I think it's only fair the crap went the other way this time. Actually it iften felt PC was just a dumping point for some checkbox release. No design for PC UI, no thought put into control scheme. Yeah, had plenty of that crap the past decade.
Yep, my pet hate about DA: Inquisition. They gave a presentation about "Returning to their PC roots" then proceeded to root PC fans with a shoddy console UI and control scheme.
Hopefully the lesson is abandon 8 year old consoles.
While it's not the main point I wanted to make you are you correct in how you put it here.
For me though the main thing is how quick the gaming media have jumped on the chance to crap on the game.
I am not flag waving here for CDP as I think the game does several things very poorly and that's annoying.
BUT as a gamer with high expectations I've found it to be a good one, not perfect and it's not met the bar I held for it over Witcher series.
The speed they have helped the console versions is commendable also and they will continue to do more I have no doubt.
I was thinking more about "release when it's done", but I like your suggestion just as much!
There have been some pretty good ones as well
Horizon Zero Dawn, RDR2, Death Stranding (if you like that sort of thing), Control...most of the AC titles are ported over from console...a few others.
Looks like they'll make a ton of money then monetize things even more with multiplayer to keep mining this rich vein for years to come. Shrug. A year of "free" DLC drops and reputation management will be no-brainer marketing expenses to unruffle the feathers. I guess when you make your living off these games, you need to heighten the drama a bit.
(wanders off chanting "same as it ever was")
(wanders off chanting "same as it ever was")
I've been saying this about ED on PS4 for years now.
Cyberpunk has really shown us what wizards Rockstar are!
We've been taking their incredible physics and attention to details for granted.
Don't forget that both the titles below run fine on Playstation 3 .. three!
(I bought GTA5 on PS3 immediately when it came out, and there was no issues)
We've been taking their incredible physics and attention to details for granted.
Don't forget that both the titles below run fine on Playstation 3 .. three!
(I bought GTA5 on PS3 immediately when it came out, and there was no issues)
R* are indeed the masters of making stuff work while looking good. I still don't see GTA V being a direct comparison to Cyberpunk though besides having cars and bikes in both, it's more akin to the likes of Deus Ex:Human Revolution or WatchDogs:Legion...both of which also played rather well and looked fine on last gen consoles... and Watchdogs:Legion has cars and bikes in it too
Watch the video...the Pelican certainly knows how to properly review a game
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that's a great comparison
It's improved over the years.There have been some pretty good ones as well
Horizon Zero Dawn, RDR2, Death Stranding (if you like that sort of thing), Control...most of the AC titles are ported over from console...a few others.