Yeah, I understand what an Alpha is. It's just that if we're thinking the alpha is possibly weeks away I would have thought that decision would have been made whether consoles are in or out. Makes it sounds like they haven't decided, which in turn make sit seem the alpha can't be that close.
All the answers from "AMA IV - Happy 33o7" collated into one post
- Thread starter StuartGT
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My impression is more like 'evasive' rather than vague...
Oh, I forgot! Thanks @StuartGT for your effort, as always... Even if I am bleating
Yeah I think your description is better actually lol!
They followed up with a bunch of answers here:
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Questions and Answers
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Thanks. So hopefully we can expect the same for the current batch of questions.
Indeed, however, you haven't taken the statement to its proper conclusion in that the inconvenience ALWAYS follows the same pattern, meaning that anyone outside the UK is ignored unless they prioritize these events in their lives over things like their work schedules, or their sleep schedules.
I've offered these points in other places, but, here we go again:
- Frontier is not a monolithic, singular entity; it would be possible to run multiple events, either with different Community Managers, or across multiple days.
- If multiple events is not viable for whatever reason, the event could be scheduled in rotation in other times than just UK time. Then, at least, everyone has equal opportunity to participate.
- The implication from what I originally quoted was that the Community Managers work standard office hours; again, the Community is far more than just the UK.
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People throughout the world, including in the UK, can be working, sleeping, or relaxing, whenever FDev choose to do an event, regardless of the time. At 3pm UTC, many people in the UK are working or in education. Meanwhile, many businesses are active with people working during non-9to5 hours, regardless of country. This is a 24/7 world.
The CMs don't work standard office hours; an obvious example disproving that claim is their Thursday livestreams which start at 7pm UTC and run for around 1.5hr.
FDev do an event at 12noon UTC: "waaah, at that time i'm at daytime work in UK, or asleep in US West, or evening work in Aus East, why aren't you thinking about me?"
FDev do an event at 3pm UTC: "waaah, at that time i'm at daytime work in UK and US-East, or asleep in Aus East, why aren't you thinking about me?"
FDev do an event at 7pm UTC: "waaah, at that time i'm at evening work in UK, or daytime work US, or waking up in Aus East, why aren't you thinking about me?"
Of course people who want to take part in events have to prioritise them over other activities (work, family, friends, sleep), that's how hobbies work
FDev should, and will, do events at times convenient to them. If those event times are inconvenient to you, tough.
I often catch up on the livestreams after the event (although I actually remembered to watch yesterday) as they are not convenient for me, and I am retired and living in the UK, so am in the correct timezone and have no excuse to miss them 
I did miss the AMA as I, unusually for me, missed the announcement - it would be 'nice' if there was a pre-load thread too so that everyone has the opportunity to put their questions at their convenience.
But in our global community it doesn't really matter what time something is happening, it won't be convenient for many.
I did miss the AMA as I, unusually for me, missed the announcement - it would be 'nice' if there was a pre-load thread too so that everyone has the opportunity to put their questions at their convenience.
But in our global community it doesn't really matter what time something is happening, it won't be convenient for many.
I'm not normally in a position to be able to contribute to the AMA thread while they are open, because I'm at the school gates. A slight silver lining of the current lockdown is that today I was at home & able to contribute.
There are probably others for whom a different timeslot would be suitable, varying the time might get different people asking different questions. The best time for the community team to engage with the community is when the community is available, not simply when it's convenient for the community team. Varying the timeslot is a reasonable way to get a wider cross-section of the community involved. As an alternative perhaps a thread could be opened for questions to be posted to the devs for the community team to get answers to so we aren't just getting 'we aren't ready to talk about that' over & over.
As it is the format seems almost completely pointless anyway
I simply wonder when we will be getting the Alpha to start with.The only surprising answer (to me) was when they said they 'didn't know' if consoles would be in the Alpha. Kinda makes you think the alpha can't be that close, if they don't even know what platforms are in it
A good time frame would be:
Alpha mid Jan, runs for 4 weeks.
Beta mid feb, runs for 4 weeks
Beta 2 mid march, runs for 2 or 4 weeks
End of April: Release
Just an idea of course.
Of course people who want to take part in events have to prioritise them over other activities (work, family, friends, sleep), that's how hobbies work
FDev should, and will, do events at times convenient to them. If those event times are inconvenient to you, tough.
I don't know what you hope to accomplish with your sycophancy, but your posturing has been noted.
Oh, btw, it is a game, not a hobby, but in any case, I see you cherry picked or avoided every suggestion to fix the issue.
What
You're so right!
I don't know what you hope to accomplish with your sycophancy, but your posturing has been noted.
Oh, btw, it is a game, not a hobby, but in any case, I see you cherry picked or avoided every suggestion to fix the issue.
Let me tell you, it's incredibly annoying when the US sporting events happen ONLY on US time. I just don't get it. Just inconsiderate. Why can't they play when I'm awake? Maybe split the players into groups, and spread the game over 24 hours.
It's only fair. Why won't someone think of me, rather than the people involved?
edit - I realise this is a ridiculous post. What US sport would I actually want to watch? edit#2 - actually, baseball probably? Not sure. Never seen it. Has to be better than cricket.
Odd, but I am pretty sure I am involved in the game; I mean I am a paying customer, even including some paintjobs from back when you actually had to, you know, spend actual money on them.It's only fair. Why won't someone think of me, rather than the people involved?
You are a customer, and you aren't restricted from PLAYING the game outside fdev's office hours. Are you?
We're talking about when their employees do their work. Their job is not to stay up until 3am UTC to livestream for different timezones, never mind reply to questions on the forums in different timezones.
Geez.
Whether it's livestreams or AMAs, the content will still be there the next day.
Given that the only product they sell is a Global service, I disagree with the notion that the timezone they live in is the only one they should support directly.
I guess that is the difference between us, I see them in terms of the service they agreed to provide, you see them as office workers.
I guess that is the difference between us, I see them in terms of the service they agreed to provide, you see them as office workers.
Well at least that question is answered.
So no walking down the stairs from a Cutter.
Could also be fallout from CDPR being silly billys having launched CP2077 for the PS4/Xboxs in such a poor state that Sony/Microsoft are being sniffy/cagey about letting another game (even an alpha) making their primary money makers look bad RE: graphics/performace etc.
Thus maybe FDev can't get a straight answer from them thus their uncertainty over console alphas?
Dear FDev,
Do NOT announce anymore games or content. You are horrible at branding, and while overhype is certainly a problem so is underhype. It's almost as if you KNOW Odyssey isn't as polished as you'd like, but much like No Man's and CP2077, the cat is out of the bag and you're on full damage control.
QUELCH THE HYPE, QUELCH THE HYPE!
Well it's worked. I actually couldn't give a' -- about Odyssey. No preorder and I'll wait for it to be in the bargain bin on a steam sale in about a year or two.
Do NOT announce anymore games or content. You are horrible at branding, and while overhype is certainly a problem so is underhype. It's almost as if you KNOW Odyssey isn't as polished as you'd like, but much like No Man's and CP2077, the cat is out of the bag and you're on full damage control.
QUELCH THE HYPE, QUELCH THE HYPE!
Well it's worked. I actually couldn't give a' -- about Odyssey. No preorder and I'll wait for it to be in the bargain bin on a steam sale in about a year or two.