Lack of ways to support ED financially?

know what ... i have the distinct feeling that you can follow up this conversation between us all by your own and your imagination going forward. (y):rolleyes:

If you wish to withdraw from the conversation that is fine.

If you wish to continue that is fine - but if you change topic, contradict yourself, or accuse others of using memes - I will call you out on it.


Otherwise all is good. <O
 

Viajero

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know what ... i have the distinct feeling that you can follow up this conversation between us all by your own and your imagination going forward. (y):rolleyes:

Ah, shame.

I must admit I was a bit puzzled by how these two ideas were being argued by the same person in the same discussion:
you can already get a conda in a couple of hours. why should i bother if anyone buys a fully g5 engineered cutter 1h into the game?
Daringly followed by
... grind for power creep is the new normal.

😋

Seriously though, in a time based progression game, such as most MMOs and Elite in particular, among others, grind for power of one kind or another is actually indeed the normal. Not new though, that is how it has almost always been. And that is one of the reasons why p2w in those games, unless somewhat limited or significantly counterbalanced will basically kill them. For p2w to work in Elite FDEV would really need to completely overhaul gameplay, rewards and balance accross the board and introduce principles such as subscriptions and/or bridging currencies such as the ones in EVE online or WoW. Or, as I said above, just throw the towel.
 
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it seems you two are getting along well and have lot to sort out. have fun. ;)

I'm sure it is not just us two that have noticed your inconsistency. I wish you the best, kisses and all (if we have reduced ourselves to using pleasantries and well wishes that are false). ;)
 
I'm sure it is not just us two that have noticed your inconsistency. I wish you the best, kisses and all (if we have reduced ourselves to using pleasantries and well wishes that are false). ;)

yeah, party hard! let those hugs and kisses flow! you only live once!!
 
If you wish to continue that is fine - but if you change topic, contradict yourself, or accuse others of using memes - I will call you out on it.

no, seriously. i have said my piece. i have understood your point, i'm not so sure about you understanding mine, but it's all more or less said, it's all there. you now can keep nagging at some imaginary contradiction because you need to desperately be right in matters of opinion, but i really see no point and, rather importantly, no fun in this.
 
yeah, party hard! let those hugs and kisses flow! you only live once!!

So does that mean you wish to continue the discussion, or are you trying to get the last word in? ;)

If it is the 'if I get the last word in, I have somehow scored a victory' then knock yourself out my friend.

This was never about right or wrong, it was about an idea and discussion; you made it something else with your saltiness and contradiction.

I hope they can bring something back that will meet with your approval as I think you've used everything else you could. I concede the last words to you good sir, it seems important. If it gives you something positive to leave with I am happy to leave it to you. :D
 

Viajero

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... prime examples of MMO's that would have shut down, if they didn't change their model.
I guess that is what I was referring with throwing the towel. Elite like some of those were not created as p2w. Proper P2W requires you to design and balance the game from the ground up to achieve it. Othewise you need to overhaul to some extent (EVE) to balance or deploy it in a limited fashion (WoW). Alternatively simply bulldoze p2w, gameplay be darned, to milk end of life. With EDO not even released yet it does not seem to yet be the case in Elite either way.
 
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Prolly could be up there with star citizen numbers but programming and content is frontiers Achilles heel.
If they were a bakery they'd have two stale biscuits on offer with a thousand flowery cups to put your orange flavored drink in.
 
Prolly could be up there with star citizen numbers but programming and content is frontiers Achilles heel.
If they were a bakery they'd have two stale biscuits on offer with a thousand flowery cups to put your orange flavored drink in.
I guess you mean that ED could still be in alpha, indefinitely too, then?
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Lmao he says, 7 YEARS AGO. How has this guy not been charged with something yet?
The crazy thing is, when I bought ED, I'd seen SC mentioned too, saw it was alpha and thought "soon then" and then, reading around, saw it had been in alpha for 5 years already!

I don't understand how CR is getting away with milking folk for so much money, nor how anyone can sincerely compare a released product (no matter how poor or otherwise their opinion of it) with one that makes no attempt to do more than publish another roadmap to the "cake tomorrow" 🤷‍♂️
 
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