Does FDev care about botting?

[Machnette]

Edit: Just to be clear with everyone. I'm calling out my own bluff. I have neither the capability, or intent, to field a bot army. This whole thing has been me venting off steam, because right now, I'm a bit miffed at what's been going on. There is no excuse for botting. None

 

[thelion]

I did not even know that there is a bot problem in ED, what what?

Surely the three laws apply?

Tatty Bye old bean and stiff upper lip

 

[BL1P]

The problem is :-
We cannot provide proof on the forums as it would upset the cheaters.
Fdev will not publish any info on those they ban for cheating in case it upsets the cheaters.

Best option is to avoid Open and pay no attention to any figures people publish, that way you wont encounter the cheaters.
Sadly I am bad at that

 

[Deleted member 182079]

What kind of botting, I presume this is about automated BGS work? How do you know they're botting?

 

[BL1P]

What kind of botting, I presume this is about automated BGS work? How do you know they're botting?

Ah yer, I guess avoiding open in that case is pointless.

 

[Machnette]

Automated BGS work. Hundreds of the damn things working in perfect synchronisation, landing on the traffic report. You go to these sites on open though, whether it's PC, PS, or XB, it's a ghost town. I've got the name of the individual showing up and they are well known to be a botter. Thanks to FDev's forum policy though, I can't tell you who they are. 100% certain we're under a bot attack - again. My comrades want to put faith in FDev to sort this, but I'm becoming increasingly convinced that FDev has no intention of ever helping and that I may as well try learn to fight fire with fire, even if it does put extra load on their server.

 

[varonica]

Automated BGS work. Hundreds of the damn things working in perfect synchronisation, landing on the traffic report. You go to these sites on open though, whether it's PC, PS, or XB, it's a ghost town.

So they're in solo or PG, that doesn't make them botters!

 

[Ouberos]

Would you say the Bots are supporting a specific faction ?

Which colour might that faction be?

Which systems in paticular are you having trouble with?

 

[Machnette]

Hundreds, just randomly are are synched toggether, as a single bloc, without any co-ordination? They're bots. 100%
We put in 210 murders against the bot supported faction yesterday, neg traded 1,780,000,000 credits and put in comparable work with every other faction in the system. Went 4% the other way. This is not human.

 

[Mimix]

How do you know they're bots? Maybe it's some well organised group working on the BGS in solo or a PG?

 

[varonica]

Hundreds, just randomly are are synched toggether, as a single bloc, without any co-ordination? They're bots. 100%
We put in 210 murders against the bot supported faction yesterday, neg traded 1,780,000,000 credits and put in comparable work with every other faction in the system. Went 4% the other way. This is not human.

So because they are opposing you and you are losing that's your evidence that they are bots, sorry but that doesn't really hold up. You have no evidence they are bots.

 

[Machnette]

There is no human army capable of this, who would have any cause. No offence, but I'm not interested in convincing you anyway, as your support would not be helpful.

 

[thelion]

Did you say 'My Comrades'?

There is a faint whiff of the red menace about this post, what what

 

[Mizbehave]

I'm not interested in convincing you anyway

It sounds like the only person you're trying to convince is yourself

 

[thelion]

Lets say for arguments sake that there is a bot problem.....

1. How does one employ bots
2. What can they do
3. Do you have links to sites where one can obtain said bots

I am just interested is all

 

[zimms]

I'm sure Frontier doesn't like it, but they can't really be bothered to do something about it.

To be fair, it really isn't an easy task and spare dev time is a rare commodity.

edit: @thelion Answering those questions would probably lead to a forum ban.

 

[thelion]

@zimms

You are a smart one old bean, what what

 

[Machnette]

This is certainly an awkward conversation to try weave between the forum rules. I have no idea how you'd go about making a bot, or 180 synched bot accounts, or even if I have the resources to run it. Basically sat here wondering whether it's worth me saving up and learning and cheating at the game, to stay in the game, or whether the cavalry is due and that the games' rules actually mean something.

 

[Mimix]

There is no human army capable of this, who would have any cause.

So there's no human army capable of successfully working against your faction/group?

There are plenty of well organised groups who have a deep understanding of the BGS. There was a nice thread somewhere on these forums explaining how to find out if someone is working against you're PMF, how to estimate the approximate amount of players and how they're working against you.

Obviously if your group is small, no matter what you do, you'll probably have no chances against a group with hundreds of players, or several large groups working together against you.

Or it might just be the case that your system is experiencing increased traffic because, for example, it might be situated near a mining hotspot, attracting a lot of players who are passively having a negative effect on your PMF.

 

[varonica]

There is no human army capable of this, who would have any cause. No offence, but I'm not interested in convincing you anyway, as your support would not be helpful.

The problem is you have no evidence to convince anyone, zero, zip, zilch. Why should FDEV take any notice of you if you can't produce evidence, the answer is they won't.