Make Elite an MMO again !!

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You misunderstood my post completely. I was merely explaining to you why your post was treated the way it was. It's a 1927394719 open only bonus thread. It's an 92173947239792749 mode equality thread, and it's the n-th thread about it over the weekend, as we got an influx of new players from the free epic games copies. I understand that for an account registered last friday it might all seem new, but... sorry it isn't. I'd like a dollar from each post in open only thread, that would net more profits than the current gamestop reddit affair :D

It's just same old, same old and the only one time a real dev (game designer) was merely considering changing the rules (and for Powerplay only) it was met with such a vehement resistance, that they backed away from that very quickly and never spoke about it again.

But hey, you're free to post, I don't care if it's the n+1th thread about it, it's entertaining, and the smell of fresh forum accounts is... intoxicating :cool:

OK we assume this is same old same old....

If you dont want to discuss it then, why dont just ignore the post and let other people who actually want?
 
OK we assume this is same old same old....

If you dont want to discuss it then, why dont just ignore the post and let other people who actually want?

An attempt to discuss, ignored...

No you’re only somewhat right, I simply want to hear the in-game justification for such a bonus to Open play. If you’re approaching the issue from ‘I want my living galaxy to be more alive and immersive’ it’s an important point, I feel.

Furthermore, examples have been demonstrated of ways to game such an Open-bonus to gain the extra rewards, without ever actually exposing oneself to the supposed extra risk of Open play; I could disappear into uncharted space for a month, remain in Open, ride a friendly carrier back with millions or even billions of cartographic data and dump it on a station(s) of my choosing without ever encountering another player or any sort of extra risk, and receive any and all bonus rewards in credits, materials or BGS influence. In short, just about anyone could exploit it to the point of breaking it.

I may disagree with your suggestion but I am trying to engage with you in discussion about it, and I see that neither of these two very relevant points have been addressed. Instead, some appear to insult and/or belittle the gameplay of others who have no desire to play with you. We’d get a lot further in ‘discussion’ if someone who supports your proposal could clarify the two points I have raised.
 
Amazing maths skills...
Don't you have either PC or Laptop & Tablet then? (or even all 3?)
Once again you throw the first stone and next will complain the opposite happened :ROFLMAO:
If that's amazing "maths" for you, I don't think it's worth discussing with you any longer, no offense.
If you were being sarcastic, which I suspect is the case, then why are you once again coming with personal attacks first? Didn't a moderator warn you against that in a previous page?

Answering your off-topic question: I have a PC and a Laptop, the latter is used purely for work though. No tablets and I don't usually use the smartphone for general web browsing. What about you?
 
Communist targeted!!

Hey just having fun with the groups thing, dont take it as an insult or personal.

Remember Im a Mosquito !!
May I suggest the same attitude be taken by yourself, after all, i have not suggested that othe rposters stop posting, but the same cannot be said about you, can it?

...as for insult or 'taking it personally', that is hilarious, it would take far more effort than you are prepared to put in to be able to bother me in the least... But, again, oddly, only minimal effort is needed for your good self to get their 'feathers ruffled'.

You wish to discuss your proposal, but do you only wish to discuss it with those who agree with you?

Mosquito... Hmmm... I'm a Reaper :devilish:
 
Mosquito... Hmmm... I'm a Reaper

That wouldn’t be related to Loren’s Reapers, who incited a large number of self-appointed lawful PvPers to blast themselves halfway across the galaxy because the big bad gankers (one of them, at least... haven’t seen him on here for a while which is a shame) upset them on the forums?

You filthy red carebear you ;)
 
Once again you throw the first stone and next will complain the opposite happened :ROFLMAO:
If that's amazing "maths" for you, I don't think it's worth discussing with you any longer, no offense.
If you were being sarcastic, which I suspect is the case, then why are you once again coming with personal attacks first? Didn't a moderator warn you against that in a previous page?

Answering your off-topic question: I have a PC and a Laptop, the latter is used purely for work though. No tablets and I don't usually use the smartphone for general web browsing. What about you?
I have all 3, of course 🤷‍♂️

No, I don't believe I was warned by a moderator, were you?

Personal attack? Really? Gosh...
 
That wouldn’t be related to Loren’s Reapers, who incited a large number of self-appointed lawful PvPers to blast themselves halfway across the galaxy because the big bad gankers (one of them, at least... haven’t seen him on here for a while which is a shame) upset them on the forums?

You filthy red carebear you ;)
Ah, the good old days!

The funniest part of the 'Lawful' action was that they apparently didn't bring enough Tritium for the return trip - and Colonia only has tiny refinery stations, so little tritium to be bought.

Phisto rarely drops by the forums, sadly, his comments were always very topical!
(of course I only hold a single forum account, so cannot include both squardons I am a member of so choose to represent none in my sig :) )
 
op, i'm bored and i'll give you a hand:

I simply want to hear the in-game justification for such a bonus to Open play

the same in-game justification there is for the existence of modes.
no, i don't think there is one. :)

without ever actually exposing oneself to the supposed extra risk of Open play

for those drowning in implementation details: keeping record of the mode in effect when credits were accrued, as opposed to cashed in, should be pretty effective.
 
Theres 2 things that came to mind just a second ago. Not by thinking of posts or replys but by daydreaming.
What if ...
I'll flip it cos the what if is too profound without an explanation.
In the Open. Rather than open only which refers to the bonus not just open mode.
Pvpers would not get this bonus. Anyone who has had notoriety after commencement of this bonus/regime within open would lose it. Only those clean lawful players would get this proposed bonus.
Now the bonus. .
An extra pip.
No finance incentive no time or % bonus Just an extra pip for those in open who obey the law.
Honest it just popped into my head.
It would balance pvpers murderous ships vs weaker pve ones.
Yup pvpers will h8 it
 
op, i'm bored and i'll give you a hand:



the same in-game justification there is for the existence of modes.
no, i don't think there is one. :)



for those drowning in implementation details: keeping record of the mode in effect when credits were accrued, as opposed to cashed in, should be pretty effective.

A fair attempt and you’ve at least tried to address the matter at hand, o7!

On the first point, you’re right in a sense, though for me personally the existence of the modes themselves is less of an immersion breaker than differing rewards for identical actions based on mode, but that’s this poster’s humble opinion, so I’ll have to concede that one.

For the second point I feel you’ve misunderstood. I’m not talking about mode switching, I’m talking about staying in Open entirely for the duration of a deep-space carrier expedition; you’ll be so far out you’ll never see another player, and on the return trip the carrier can park practically outside the mail slot of the stations you want to influence, leaving you a mere few light second journey in Open before you claim your big boy bonus. No mode switching required, and exploitable to point of breaking it in my opinion.

But thanks for actually engaging, genuinely (y)
 
It's a slow week in Lockdown... We need a little light entertainment and this particular 'dead horse' does provide the best of its kind...

I really love that gankers think they are a) scary & b) special... Well not unless you consider the use of 'special' that gets an infraction from the mods ;)
(edit = typo)
It is just a little sad that they hide behind the label PvP when what they actually want is PvV(ictim).
 
No you’re only somewhat right, I simply want to hear the in-game justification for such a bonus to Open play. If you’re approaching the issue from ‘I want my living galaxy to be more alive and immersive’ it’s an important point, I feel.

Furthermore, examples have been demonstrated of ways to game such an Open-bonus to gain the extra rewards, without ever actually exposing oneself to the supposed extra risk of Open play; I could disappear into uncharted space for a month, remain in Open, ride a friendly carrier back with millions or even billions of cartographic data and dump it on a station(s) of my choosing without ever encountering another player or any sort of extra risk, and receive any and all bonus rewards in credits, materials or BGS influence. In short, just about anyone could exploit it to the point of breaking it.

I may disagree with your suggestion but I am trying to engage with you in discussion about it, and I see that neither of these two very relevant points have been addressed. Instead, some appear to insult and/or belittle the gameplay of others who have no desire to play with you. We’d get a lot further in ‘discussion’ if someone who supports your proposal could clarify the two points I have raised.

You are rigth, I want my living galaxy to be more alive and immersive. I suppose you want it too. And I think there are easy ways, non complicated mechanics a new player can understand easily. And thats why I propose the extra rewards for Open Play.

Other things like buffing BGS in Open have been proposed by others, not by me. I propose direct lootable rewards.

Thats why I cant understand why some CMDRs feel this like a problem while they will continue their experience as it is right now, with 0% changes in their gameplay.

They are acting against other commanders rewards, not theirs.

And thats again the Communist group I say as a definition NOT as an insult to ideology of millions of people.

I know your points.

I WILL FEEL BEHIND its exactly what defines yor problem along with many other people.

And I just dont agree with that way of thinking.

Thats all.
 
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Pvpers would not get this bonus. Anyone who has had notoriety after commencement of this bonus/regime within open would lose it. Only those clean lawful players would get this proposed bonus.
Now the bonus. .
An extra pip.
That is a filthy trick... You should be ashamed of yourself! ;)
(Mind, I'm currently at zero notoriety, which I'm sure won't last very long..)
 
You are rigth, I want my living galaxy to be more alive and immersive. I suppose you want it too. And I think there are easy ways, non complicated mechanics a new player can understand easily. And thats why I propose the extra rewards for Open Play.

Other things like buffing BGS in Open have been proposed by others, not by me. I propose direct lootable rewards.

Thats why I cant understand why some CMDRs feel this like a problem while they will continue their experience as it is right now, with 0% changes in his game.

They are acting against other commanders rewards, not theirs.

And thats again the Communist group I say as a definiotion NOT as an insult to a ideology of millions of people.

I know your points.

I WILL FEEL BEHIND its exactly what defines yor problem along with many other people.

And I just dont agree with that way of thinking.

Thats all.

But WHY does the same faction representative give different rewards for the same transaction in different modes? Have they been authorised to pay double the price because you’ve been a big brave boy? It doesn’t make any sense to me, and makes my game less immersive as a result, not more.

And it’s still exploitable as anything.
 
Theres 2 things that came to mind just a second ago. Not by thinking of posts or replys but by daydreaming.
What if ...
I'll flip it cos the what if is too profound without an explanation.
In the Open. Rather than open only which refers to the bonus not just open mode.
Pvpers would not get this bonus. Anyone who has had notoriety after commencement of this bonus/regime within open would lose it. Only those clean lawful players would get this proposed bonus.
Now the bonus. .
An extra pip.
No finance incentive no time or % bonus Just an extra pip for those in open who obey the law.
Honest it just popped into my head.
It would balance pvpers murderous ships vs weaker pve ones.
Yup pvpers will h8 it
That is an interesting idea! Something along these lines would be quite fun
 
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