Wait until you discover that the Odyssey update allows you to scoop other players into your cargo hold and sell them.
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Youre behaving as if you were in kindergarten. If you opt to ban ppl for one thing, and to not ban the other, conclusion is obvious, and no semantic play will change that.
You obviously are a bad party here, as you want to ban ppl for no valid reason - and no manipulation is needed to see that. As for you not being idiot - I see it exactly the same way as your claims of not being sociopath.
The shenanigan was surprising, inventive, funny, and also against the ToS because it involved deceiving and exploiting other players. FD usually govern with a very light touch, but it's not surprising that they responded when there was reputational damage to the game. They had every right to do that.
This is a role playing game after all, it was cruel but didn't deserve a band.
They haven't cheated they have convinced people to do something, isn't that real life.
I thought this bought an amount of danger and life to the game.
Madness.
Haven't good people carriers jumped over to rescue the slaves anyway, so whats the harm.
Shame there isn't a way to disable services on a carrier, oh there was UA Bombing... that got removed. That would have given slaves a way of revenge.
They haven't cheated they have convinced people to do something, isn't that real life.
I thought this bought an amount of danger and life to the game.
Madness.
Haven't good people carriers jumped over to rescue the slaves anyway, so whats the harm.
Shame there isn't a way to disable services on a carrier, oh there was UA Bombing... that got removed. That would have given slaves a way of revenge.
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Where did I call for a ban or even elude to it? Not once. You don't even have a single shred of evidence to suggest I would even be in favor of a ban at all. Where are you getting this stuff from?
But to make it clear, even if I did, that doesn't make it the bad-faith position as there's apparently lots of reasons now that FDEV issued an actual ban and this is no longer hypothetical.
For over a week we heard from your side of this that it was all fun and games because "he didn't break any rules and it was emergent" gameplay. Oooops! You would think that blatantly wrong take would humble someone in your position, but because this is the Internet, you're just doubling down twice as bad and lashing out.
Your side lost this thing. Sit down and be quiet or at the very least stop going on the attack. You've lost the plot.
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I watched Mandy again last night and frankly, its ED in a nutshell.
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A corporation’s seemingly knee-jerk reaction for PR purposes should not be mistaken for “being right” or taken as an automatic “I win” button in this argument.
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Yeah, I've noticed. Something about Elite seems to attract a rather toxic player base...Isn't it telling about the Game if "emergent Gameplay" always seems to involve
- mangling others
- killing others
- extorting others
- screwing others over
I don't know, looks like a clear pattern to me
Tells alot, doesn't it?
This Game appears to require some form of detox....
Maybe it's the over engineered ships that allows them to completely mangle lower level players without any sort of meaningful repercussions? Something like that...
At least in GTA online you can kill a tryhard in a reasonable amount of time if you know what you're doing. In Elite you can have the best engineered small ship and it would still take nearly an hour to remove a Cutter/Vette/Conda's sheilds... Then they'd just high-wake or clog.
you don't pay much attention to politics, do you?
i have to confess i didn't listen to the interview, before.
just looked it up.
listened through a third of it:
yeah the guy is full of arxe and enjoying his 5 minutes of fame, he's clearly just trying to drum the whole thing up.
kids at play, media after prey. i really don't see what you find so offensive about it. the talk about "slavery" is just a metaphor for all this idiocy.
the only real thing i can appreciate here is people having fun with games, which is good, and some being after notoriety, which i couldn't care less about.
that's 20 minutes of my life for this circus. if there is something relevant i missed a transcript would come in very handy.
As I say - I wont get into kindergarten semantic play. The operation in question is not and never was a valid cause for ban, and certainly doesn't warrant suggesting that ppl standing behind it are sociopaths. Fact that some guy pretending to be journalist used word "slavery", when he obviously doesn't know what it means (neither has any idea what the game in question is about) doesn't justify actions ALLEGEDLY taken by fdev. Period.
Looks like a clear cut case of breaking a long-standing ToS that wasn't edited or changed for PR purposes for this incident. But if spinning conspiracy theories is easier than just saying "I was wrong", have at it I guess.
To be honest I didn't personally want the guy banned, but the fact that he was has only increased my respect for Frontier as a gaming company. I think having one Eve Online in this genre is quite enough don't you?
That's not what I did and you full well know it. But yes, if someone is going to say having basic ethics like "lying and manipulation is wrong" are going on some crazy insane crusade, then I will fight back by saying those who lack that basic opinion equally have something wrong with them
Forum PVP at it's finest and all.So you agree they shouldn't be banned from online? Why are you arguing with other people who think they shouldn't be banned then?
quite a turn around in the same post don't you think?
You don't have to practice.
Isn't it telling about the Game if "emergent Gameplay" always seems to involve
- mangling others
- killing others
- extorting others
- screwing others over
I don't know, looks like a clear pattern to me
Tells alot, doesn't it?
This Game appears to require some form of detox....
Well, its supposed to be set in a dystopian hell hole, not the equivalent of Sunday school- so I'd expect a fair amount of emergent situations to be, well, involving death / deception.
Plus, whats different from mangling and killing / extorting and screwing people over? Am I missing gameplay, or are you stretching things a bit?
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