They literally named stations for popular ED youtuber.
They literally paid at least 1 popular streamer to stream the game, even though they never played ED before (and it was a "poop"show if you catch what I'm trying to say).
Yong Yeas take on Elite Dangerous Odyssey (Not Good)
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They literally paid at least 1 popular streamer to stream the game, even though they never played ED before (and it was a "poop"show if you catch what I'm trying to say).
You think streamers did this? or do you think Steam did this?
Its funny that games with lots of streamers on other platforms without the same rating system tends to...fall through.
Off topic but thank you for mechwarrior mercenaries. I played the hell out of that game back in the day.
I know the marketing part, my point is it doesnt make much difference. Same with influencers. Its actually a bad marketing return.
Also used to read PC gamer and a few others. Loved those demo disks.
I havent preordered a game in years. The industry has gone down hill on a few levels in the last 10-20 years, and I no longer feel like its wise to offer trust up front. The microtransactions, p2w, and aesthetic-only economies (apex legends??) are grotesque, and elsewhere you have kids paying $15 for an in-game asset - a shirt - because it has the userID and color scheme of some "esports" gamer who won a corporate gaming tournament on it.
Streamers. They were all acknowledged by the game company. Quill by name, Markiplier have a plushie thing in subanutica, and for kenshi the dev went to japan because of that.
Yes it's all real. Google it.
Saying they do'nt have an impact is like saying TV didn't have an impact 50years ago, and radio a century ago. It does. It's massive. Whether you know it or not.
Well, yeah, if the game crashes on the stream multiple times it's definitely a bad return.
But if the game had worked well it could have actually easily gotten thousands more sales. Erei is very much correct about the specific streamers he mentioned.
Some streamers - like Sseth - can literally pull an old, largely forgotten game like Starsector out of obscurity and back on the map.
Indeed, I'm betting ThePilot brought in a lot of guys thanks to his ship reviews. He's one of the big reasons I played this game in the first place in 2021.
I never said they dont have an impact. You are just greatly overestimating it. Streamers are just dirt cheap compared to real marketing.
Who?
Yeah....wish I had listened to you (and the old me, haha) on this one.
I just watched a video from Obsidian Ant from yesterday on the current state of Odyssey. Not much disagreement between him and Yong Yea regarding the launch. Obsidian Ant mentioned that Frontier's fiscal year ends in June, and that probably factored large in not moving back the release date. If so, it's hard to feel like Frontier did not deserve the 2x4 to the head they are receiving from influencers.
In short, Frontier ran afoul of the John Carmack maxim: "We will release (insert Id title here) when it's ready to be played." And Id always would put out games with the latest and greatest effects for high end rigs to showcase, while also being enjoyable on lower/older rigs. They set a standard few developers seem to care about matching today. Case in point: the other day, just for sh##s and giggles, I ran Quake 2 .... wound up playing for almost an hour. That game to me is still the Babe Ruth of first person shooters.
Odyssey will get better in time, and I've seen some improvements over the past couple days. I think many are aggravated because they care a lot about this game. I would have eventually purchased this game regardless of the release date....and for me, that's what was frustrating.
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Back in the days you used google to find out more about folks you hadn't heard of before.
Nowadays you post 'Who?' and parade your ignorance.
Nowadays you post 'Who?' and parade your ignorance.
Yong is a well respected gaming journalist whom people go to for aggregated information.
This includes stock broker financial analyst types who specialize in gaming investment.
If a game is panned, do you think an investor is likely to invest in that company?
Frontier cares very much about its financial status. Its shareholders especially.
Frontier is much more likely to pay attention to an influencer than we individual users because influencers influence investors. MONEY
Yong Yea's video is yet another incentive for Frontier to " Straighten up and Fly Right."
He is a nobody
Said the people back when internet became a thing "it will not replace TV, I'll say", the people when TV became popular "those TV show will never amount to anything", said the people back when radio became a thing "those radio talk show will never have any impact".
Well there we are. Influencers are massive, people like the purple haired fortnite player ninja what's is name went on TV on a very popular show, in front of millions of people. Companies spend fortunes for them.
You are underestimating them. I saw their impact first hand. I was there when it happened. You were not. You don't even know them.
Back in the day we used to value actual human to human conversation over "googling" every question we might need answered, too. Word of mouth was just as impactful as any website.
And back in the day, roman had mosaics for marketing, representing in great details the "speciality" of their brothels. They also had common toilets.
Time changes. But not really. A legionary also carved a male genitalia on Hadrian's wall during his tour.
The only reason people used "word to mouth" back then is simply because they didn't have better.
Never heard of the guy and I'm not aware of him ever showing an interest in Elite: Dangerous before. Seems like a bandwagon jumper and a pretty damn boring one at that (presumably basing his piece on other peoples reviews because he has no first hand knowledge of the game himself?).
Mind you, I only watched the first four minutes ... perhaps it got brilliant after that?
Mind you, I only watched the first four minutes ... perhaps it got brilliant after that?
Google still isn't necessarily better, though - for obscure or technical questions it's usually faster to just ask someone.
Also some people like the conversation. Those people are weird.
Firstly, YouTubers are credited with far more influence than they actually have. Does anyone really care what they think? Secondly, they make their money essentially the same way the tabloids do, by sensationalising everything to create excitement.
I've never heard of this guy before, and tomorrow I'll have forgotten him.
I've never heard of this guy before, and tomorrow I'll have forgotten him.
It's not about "better". People have been complaining since the Babylonian that things gets "worse". It's about the change of time, and realizing that it changed. Either you adapt or you are left behind.
They do though. Companies spend fortunes on them for a reason. They are called "influencer" for a reason.
It doesn't matter if Triptych say he doesn't care.