State of the Game

'behaving' is a social construct defined by the zeitgeist of the population being addressed.... in this case, by the social mores of a kindergarten of 4 year olds high on E numbers and sweets, I think.... yes, behaviour checks out today...
We should all up our behaviorism game. An open source source might help (it's so fitting):

It assumes that behavior is either a reflex evoked by the pairing of certain antecedent stimuli in the environment, or a consequence of that individual's history, including especially reinforcement and punishment contingencies, together with the individual's current motivational state and controlling stimuli.

The roles are clearly assigned.
 
We should all up our behaviorism game. An open source source might help (it's so fitting):

It assumes that behavior is either a reflex evoked by the pairing of certain antecedent stimuli in the environment, or a consequence of that individual's history, including especially reinforcement and punishment contingencies, together with the individual's current motivational state and controlling stimuli.

The roles are clearly assigned.
I feel smarter already!

Granted, it doesn't take much, but I'll take it.
 
We should all up our behaviorism game. An open source source might help (it's so fitting):

It assumes that behavior is either a reflex evoked by the pairing of certain antecedent stimuli in the environment, or a consequence of that individual's history, including especially reinforcement and punishment contingencies, together with the individual's current motivational state and controlling stimuli.

The roles are clearly assigned.
@MishaTX will opt for the "punishment contingencies" before retiring to his bunk...
 
...Progress in science was always partially based on falsifying (or at least extending/superseding at some border scale/range) some of theories...
One true and horrifying story about bad science.

In investigating treatments for ME/CFS a trial (the 'PACE trial') reported that two particular treatments, known as cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET), were effective. They cited 641 test subjects and claimed that 60 (yes sixty) percent showed improvement, if not cure. The result was that these approaches formed the basis of medical treatment and insurance companies response to ME/CFS.

However, their findings did not ring true to sufferers of the condition nor experts in the field.

After a very lengthy and combative process the underlying data was finally released for review, and "...analysis showed that... only 4.4 percent of the exercise patients and 6.8 percent of the cognitive behavior therapy patients would have qualified as having recovered, along with 3.1 percent of patients in a trial arm that received neither therapy." So not quite 60%.

It was also found that the definition of “recovery” used was so loose that patients could get worse over the course of the trial on both fatigue and physical function and still be considered “recovered.” and that the threshold for physical function was so low that an average 80-year-old would exceed it. Additionally "The study used such a broad definition of the disease that it likely included many patients who didn’t truly have ME/CFS at all."

In my conversation with a very senior ME/CFS specialist, he was blunter, saying that of the 641 test subjects, 0 showed any significant improvement.

But along the way, how many people had been harmed and made to feel that they were wrong about their own bodies? I find it obscene that this now thoroughly discredited study has never been retracted.

Sorry to vary the tone. Cat meme coming shortly.
 
One true and horrifying story about bad science.

In investigating treatments for ME/CFS a trial (the 'PACE trial') reported that two particular treatments, known as cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET), were effective. They cited 641 test subjects and claimed that 60 (yes sixty) percent showed improvement, if not cure. The result was that these approaches formed the basis of medical treatment and insurance companies response to ME/CFS.

However, their findings did not ring true to sufferers of the condition nor experts in the field.

After a very lengthy and combative process the underlying data was finally released for review, and "...analysis showed that... only 4.4 percent of the exercise patients and 6.8 percent of the cognitive behavior therapy patients would have qualified as having recovered, along with 3.1 percent of patients in a trial arm that received neither therapy." So not quite 60%.

It was also found that the definition of “recovery” used was so loose that patients could get worse over the course of the trial on both fatigue and physical function and still be considered “recovered.” and that the threshold for physical function was so low that an average 80-year-old would exceed it. Additionally "The study used such a broad definition of the disease that it likely included many patients who didn’t truly have ME/CFS at all."

In my conversation with a very senior ME/CFS specialist, he was blunter, saying that of the 641 test subjects, 0 showed any significant improvement.

But along the way, how many people had been harmed and made to feel that they were wrong about their own bodies? I find it obscene that this now thoroughly discredited study has never been retracted.

Sorry to vary the tone. Cat meme coming shortly.
Anyone interested in a great overview of bad science and quackery I recommend "Bad Science" by Ben Goldacre if you haven't read it...
 
Nope, there is still no spoon.
Here's a lovely anteater setttling down to a hearty Kale soup...
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One true and horrifying story about bad science.

In investigating treatments for ME/CFS a trial (the 'PACE trial') reported that two particular treatments, known as cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET), were effective. They cited 641 test subjects and claimed that 60 (yes sixty) percent showed improvement, if not cure. The result was that these approaches formed the basis of medical treatment and insurance companies response to ME/CFS.

However, their findings did not ring true to sufferers of the condition nor experts in the field.

After a very lengthy and combative process the underlying data was finally released for review, and "...analysis showed that... only 4.4 percent of the exercise patients and 6.8 percent of the cognitive behavior therapy patients would have qualified as having recovered, along with 3.1 percent of patients in a trial arm that received neither therapy." So not quite 60%.

It was also found that the definition of “recovery” used was so loose that patients could get worse over the course of the trial on both fatigue and physical function and still be considered “recovered.” and that the threshold for physical function was so low that an average 80-year-old would exceed it. Additionally "The study used such a broad definition of the disease that it likely included many patients who didn’t truly have ME/CFS at all."

In my conversation with a very senior ME/CFS specialist, he was blunter, saying that of the 641 test subjects, 0 showed any significant improvement.

But along the way, how many people had been harmed and made to feel that they were wrong about their own bodies? I find it obscene that this now thoroughly discredited study has never been retracted.

Sorry to vary the tone. Cat meme coming shortly.
just reminds me of the Theranos scandal

 
Sees the 879423th Odyssey thread by same non-Odyssey owner trying really hard to justify to themselves and to "the community" why they're absolutely going to buy it despite ranting about it since beta and explaining to everyone how every other game does it better.

Today's possible moral justification for purchasing Odyssey? "Can I uninstall it?"

Posts, then waits for 879424th thread.
 
One true and horrifying story about bad science.
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Sorry to vary the tone. Cat meme coming shortly.
Well, this was hardly a science, more of a con.

What I meant is even science done "the right way" has some (low) "failure rate".
For whatever obvious reasons, that I feel to lazy to add here, because they, as mentioned, obvious...
 
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