Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

The only problem with applying these comparisons to SC, is that the product ain’t finished yet. Those thousands aren’t buying a tried and tested set of premium clubs, for example. They’re buying a lovely leather case for sure, but right now it only holds a couple of shiny drivers, a placeholder rubber putter, and a bunch of rolled up IOUs ;)

That’d be the issue.

It’s still totally people’s choice to do that. But you can kind of understand the funny looks ;)

I mean, your hobby might involve spending thousands upon thousands on a car that doesnt roll, much less run.

 
There are no words in your post friend. I’m guessing that means it was all swears, or the bartenders are working in the Million Mile High Club tonight.

Guess I’ll take that as a 'yes' on 2021 Server Meshing completion for now ;)
Ill reply... Just busy. Must have read your post earlier and hit reply by accident.
 
I mean, your hobby might involve spending thousands upon thousands on a car that doesnt roll, much less run.


Heritage and history are one thing. This is supposed to be a brand new product though.

Unless you’re saying it’s all just this ;)

Source: https://www.twitter.com/banditloaf/status/1416513865936932870
 
I mean, your hobby might involve spending thousands upon thousands on a car that doesnt roll, much less run.

At that point, the classic car is really no different than the dozens of people fixing up K-cars in their back yards in the town where I grew up in the 80s.

It's one thing to buy in for perceived potential if you plan on flipping the thing or somehow improving it on your own; it's another if you're throwing money at a thing that simply doesn't work and won't until the original manufacturer takes pains to fix it.
 
Not my fault Bitcoin made me wealthy while playing. Actually sold most of my fleet in late 2015 and early 2016 to buy more Bitcoin. Started buying Bitcoin when it dropped to $250 to $350 in 2014. ;)

Bought my fleet back for pennies compared to what I earned and now earning with Bitcoin.
Explains why you're currently working so hard to capitalise on Frontier's missteps as a means to pump and dump SC
 
DS4Windows = https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows/releases

Not sure it will help with your HOTAS, merely noticed the general issues have been noted by others with the same core reason.



Same for me though, Elite i used the base OS / Steam whatever to detect a controller plugged in, SC i need to do the hoop jumping.


As for money spent on a game, i always think about what people spend on their other hobbies, and gaming - even whales - dont look so bad after.
  • golfing workmates spend £6500 / year on course subscription (not even membership), new golf clubs £500 - 1000 regularly, car costs to get there back etc
  • skiing? Multi-thousands to fly to canada or europe (pre-covid obviously) 2+ times a year. Again gear every couple of years at least.
  • motorcycles. Probably not upgrading so often, but going to race days, fuel and maintenance racks up (let alone chains to stop s nicking them).

If someone has dropped a grand on a game, even if i would not, its not really "bad" in the scheme of things to me.
Kind of a false equivalence thing though if talking about SC and not gaming in general.

Take golf for example. Its more like if a course developer came in and asked for money to make the best golf course ever. He was going to save golfing.

He says he can do it for a few million and it will take 2-3 years tops.

As things go on he sells golf clubs to keep funding going, although many golf clubs are still in devrlopment and you cant actually use them.

9 years later the course is still not open to the public except a few days a year.

There is only one incomplete hole and a bar. The one hole had many ditches and potholes down its length that can cause people to fall into them.

Some backers proclaim it to be the best golf course ever.
 
Kind of a false equivalence thing though if talking about SC and not gaming in general.

Take golf for example. Its more like if a course developer came in and asked for money to make the best golf course ever. He was going to save golfing.

He says he can do it for a few million and it will take 2-3 years tops.

As things go on he sells golf clubs to keep funding going, although many golf clubs are still in devrlopment and you cant actually use them.

9 years later the course is still not open to the public except a few days a year.

There is only one incomplete hole and a bar. The one hole had many ditches and potholes down its length that can cause people to fall into them.

Some backers proclaim it to be the best golf course ever.
Don't forget the pro shop with it's overpriced clothing that you wouldn't be seen dead in outside the course. ;)

I'm off for a game in about an hour. 🏌️‍♂️⛳🍻
 
You guys are just haters. Do other golf courses have as much fidelity in their canteen as this one? Do other golf courses give you gold decorative handguns to sling across your hips while you golf?

It's an in development golf course. Of course there will be teeing problems (sorrynotsorry).
 
The synergy of server meshing working in tandem with the force multiplier of the Vulcan renderer will make the content dams burst with planets, missions and NPCs indistinguishable from players.

And then CitizenCon will happen and combat animations for Squadron 42's space Vandals will still be in progress.
 
DS4Windows = https://github.com/Ryochan7/DS4Windows/releases

Not sure it will help with your HOTAS, merely noticed the general issues have been noted by others with the same core reason.

Same for me though, Elite i used the base OS / Steam whatever to detect a controller plugged in, SC i need to do the hoop jumping.
Interesting that ED works for you too but SC doesn't! I'll take a look at that link later this morning after I have done the food shopping 😎
Thanks for the link!
 
What if they ran around saying the rubber putter was a force multiplier? ;)
As long as it had a Tiger Woods logo on it...I'd probably buy it :D

That aside, discussing Star Citizen, Ci¬G and all the related foibles are good in my book, but when the topic of discussion turns around to how much any private individual has spent on the project...far less for golf, motorbikes, RC aircraft, speed knitting... or anything else for that matter...that's where the discussion and topic is wandering into deeply personal territory and starts turning into something that begins to feel uncomfortable. It serves no real purpose and doesn't move this thread any further along barring making it appear outwardly like a witch hunt.

I should make it clear...I have no issues discussing my personal spending on hobbies, or the habit of poking fun at SC whales in a general sense... but that's me...it's the direction the topic is headed I'm uncomfortable with 🤷‍♂️
 
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I'm just doing that social justice thing, and pointing out that CIG is pushing the boat out on what's considered normal or acceptable in the cash-for-product world. (Others bad, most certainly, but CIG so often absurdly worse ;)). I know it's annoying, but I'll probably keep doing it ¯\(ツ)/¯

If CIG end up not providing people with a Javelin that does anything commensurate with $3,000, or disappears out a back door leaving some other company to nurse the PU through some MVP final years, or any of the other negative end results that could so easily happen with the approach that they're taking, then maybe my little internet passtime won't have been in vain. And I might have helped a few people have fun in an alpha, without slowly spending $500 on unrealised dreams. Guess we'll see ;)



If only someone paid me for mine ;)
What happens if in the next few years, the game engine they are using would become too old? Would they try to release and start over with a new Engine Star Citizen 2? Or keep on supporting SC?

I am wondering what happens if the funding stops? Will they still employ 700 people, or just quickly cut the expenses?
 
As long as it had a Tiger Woods logo on it...I'd probably buy it :D

That aside, discussing Star Citizen, Ci¬G and all the related foibles are good in my book, but when the topic of discussion turns around to how much any private individual has spent on the project...far less for golf, motorbikes, RC aircraft, speed knitting... or anything else for that matter...that's where the discussion and topic is wandering into deeply personal territory and starts turning into something that begins to feel uncomfortable. It serves no real purpose and doesn't move this thread any further along barring making it appear outwardly like a witch hunt.

I don't think how much someone has spent totally invalidates their opinion, but it is worth considering the sunk cost fallacy effect. For example, LA might call me biased, but at least that bias is not born out of money i have given to CIG. I'm not someone who feels beholden to CIG or feels ripped off by them.

And when it comes to people have spent thousands upon thousands on a computer game, especially an unreleased one, and not just Star Citizen, i'll stand by anyone poking fun at them.
 
I don't think how much someone has spent totally invalidates their opinion, but it is worth considering the sunk cost fallacy effect. For example, LA might call me biased, but at least that bias is not born out of money i have given to CIG. I'm not someone who feels beholden to CIG or feels ripped off by them.

And when it comes to people have spent thousands upon thousands on a computer game, especially an unreleased one, and not just Star Citizen, i'll stand by anyone poking fun at them.
Well people do put sometimes pretty substantial sums of money into their hobbies. Some years ago I did practice pistol shooting much more than nowadays. 150 rounds per week, it was not particularly cheap over the time...and basically all that money was burned away...
 
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