Aviary Speculation in PZ Megathread

Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
I thought it might be good to have one place where can all discuss this rather than going off on tangents in unrelated threads or opening up tons of individual threads. This can be a place where we can all speculate on when/if/how aviaries can come to PZ, what species you'd like to see, dlc format etc.

I wanted to get this started with a video that shows Dimorphodons in JWE2 seemingly free-flying (read; no looped animations). Here's the video for those that haven't seen it yet.
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Now we also know that the terrain and ground will be able to be fully shaped and customized by the player. In the video comments the JWE2 channel also confirms that we can showcase multiple species in the same aviary.

All three of these details (non-looped animations, customizable terrains and multiple species) would be very important for PZ aviaries.
 

SalamAnders

SalamAnders
Also this:
''Of course, you'll still need to keep an eye on Dimorphodon for escapes! In Jurassic World Evolution 2, escaped flying reptiles will likely be found perching on things in your park or building territory to fulfil their comfort requirements - when they're not attacking guests and some of your dinosaurs!''

So even outside of the Aviaries their animations will work to some degree at least. Which could open the door for more creative freedom with aviary building in PZ I imagine, since JWE2 seems to be featurering less creative freedom than PZ.
 

Doran

Doran
Notes:
  • Definitely free-flying. They can escape then sit anywhere or attack guest and even dinosaurs. This confirms that free-flying can work outside aviary.
  • Free-flying need minimum open space to work.
  • U can mix species
  • Pterosaurs use special sites to sit and rest
  • Pterosaurs can use fish feeder (enrichment item)
 

Aramar

Aramar
I'm more and more convinced that we'll get aviaries at some point. Not sure if this Christmas or next year, because maybe they want to test it first with JWE and then add it to PZ. My only concern is how many birds would we get. I'm sure Frontier can do aviaries, but getting only 4 or even just 8 birds is not enough for me. Imagine having just 4 or 8 mammals in the game! We need a larger pack (with higher price, of course).
 

Antmar97

Antmar97
Yay no looped animations! 🥳
Judging from the level of customization of JWE i think that there will be an Aviary prebuilt enclosure like a big PZ exihibit where you can modify plants and terrain, but for Pz this will kill all the creativity behind the game and i hope there will not be implemented like this (If they will be implemented).
A lot of users have already builded aviaries with the current building pieces and with the last update and the possibility of disable animals escapes i think they don't have to add a proper aviary building system.

Speaking of the animals i'm not into birds so i will be totally fine with one species for the most known birds, there's no need to tell that an usual dlc pack with 4 or 5 species would be absolutely a shame.
 

Doran

Doran
Antmar97 said:
Judging from the level of customization of JWE i think that there will be an Aviary prebuilt enclosure like a big PZ exihibit where you can modify plants and terrain, but for Pz this will kill all the creativity behind the game and i hope there will not be implemented like this (If they will be implemented).
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No, according to fact dimorphodons need enough free flying space to fly, there is way to build them. Most likely modular building, which u can connect to another(this is more realistic version) or wall type.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Antmar97 said:
A lot of users have already builded aviaries with the current building pieces and with the last update and the possibility of disable animals escapes i think they don't have to add a proper aviary building system.
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There's no way they add animals that require you to turn off escapes in order to keep. For one thing that would restrict their use to Sandbox, and for another that would prevent players who don't use that option from keeping those animals. They also can't add animals that require building pieces to keep either; even though building pieces can technically be used to contain animals, you still need an actual habitat in conjunction.

I think Doran is right in this one - the modular system you can see in JWE2 (which looks to be simply combining multiple identical pieces to create something bigger) will most likely translate into PZ. So we'll be able to customise the interior of the aviary with foliage, rocks, terrain, enrichment, and so on, and the birds will be free-flying within the aviary (and without, I guess, if they escape), but the structure itself might not be the most creatively free.
 

Hugo98

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It would be a pity if we would be limited in building aviaries but on the other hand I think it could be difficult to build large aviaries like the ones below, so maybe some kind of pre-built structures wouldn't be bad. I still hope we will have the opportunity to customize the aviary structures in some way. And it would be great if we also could put the birds in tropical halls.
All in all, with this JWE2 feature I'm more convinced we will get flying birds.
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Antmar97

Antmar97
NZFanatic said:
There's no way they add animals that require you to turn off escapes in order to keep. For one thing that would restrict their use to Sandbox, and for another that would prevent players who don't use that option from keeping those animals. They also can't add animals that require building pieces to keep either; even though building pieces can technically be used to contain animals, you still need an actual habitat in conjunction.
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Yeah i should have explained better, as of today a lot of people is capable of building aviaries habitat from a simple null barrier, and i know there's no way they could add animals that requires the escape off or others restrictions, i was thinking about one way to build an aviary freely in sandbox (which could be closed as a realistic one, or open if you want to build a simple habitat that requires the escape off) and in the other modes (Which as to be closed of course) without compromise the actual freedom to build of the game, and without imposing limit to the build with a prebuilt one for example.
 

Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
I'm so excited for the idea of keeping multiple species in the same aviary. That's huge for any type of tropical or shorebird display especially. I'd love to have some kind of giant Amazonian aviary habitat with 2-3 macaw species, a toucan species, scarlet ibis and some smaller song birds. Dream come true!
 

Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
yoav_r said:
Now the question is:

How many species are we gonna get in an aviary expansion?

JWE2 has only 5, which is fine for pterosaurs, but not for modern birds
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Also, that's just the number at launch, plus they have to adhere to whatever guidelines are set by Universal. I'd imagine more will come in dlc, perhaps they will even have a pterosaur themed pack at some point.

I think the absolute minimum for an aviary dlc is 8-10 birds, with the door being open for more to be added in future dlc as well.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
I'd gladly pay $20 for 16 birds, taking the animal pack theme and doubling it. Of course, we'd have to have some new building parts too, just for the ability to keep the birds from flying, so maybe they take it to somewhere between 12-15 birds or give us 20 birds and the building set for $30. I know that's a high price for DLC but I'd throw down money for that, if this was going to be a one shot, non revisited pack idea.
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

K
I would guess about the animals that we get atleast one per continent (6), one parrot, one vulture, one eagle, one species of waterfowl, one owl and one miscelanious bird (think kookaburra or hornbill). This would be atleast 6 animals, probably 12 with them mixing and mashing the stuff.
Only birds im 100% sure on that they will be in the pack is a macaw species, probably scarlet or yellow and blue, and the eurasian eagle owl, but they could also do a sneacky and give us the snowyowl, while representing europe instead with the golden eagle or the bearded vulture, which would be quite the cassowary situation over a normal vulture but one i would really like
 

Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
I'd be cool with skipping vultures for now at least, since they could feasibly be a habitat animal. In fact most zoos that I've been to have vultures only has habitat animals and outside of aviaries, not sure how it differs in other places.

I'd think we would get initially:
  • 3-4 SA species with at least 2 being parrots/macaws
  • 1-2 owl species (Eurasian eagle owl and snowy owl most likely imo, due to recognizability and the contrast in biomes from other birds)
  • 2-3 Australian/New Zealand species
  • 2-4 for other continents and genus
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
I keep seeing people mentioning that they want high numbers of birds, but to be honest I don't see why.

For key species, the variety isn't huge. Having two species of macaw in one DLC would be akin to including two subpops of tiger or two brown bears, which we got in the base game, but you know what I mean. If they gave us the bald eagle and the golden eagle, as another example, to me that's the same thing. Both would be nice, but we certainly don't need both to cover a wide variety of birds in a pack. Honestly, eight species isn't that bad for "key zoo animals".

Wading birds like ibises and cranes, and waterfowl, could be habitat animals, so if the pack is focussed on flying birds, it's likely these will be skipped in favour of more conventional species. I'm also more convinced than ever that birds will be the start of a new period in PZ, rather than the end of the old period. So there's no reason to think this will be our one shot at birds and then it's over.

Time will certainly tell, of course, but I'm confident.
 

Doran

Doran
Aviaries in JWE2 looks this way, because they are canon version (Jurassic World 2015). In PZ there could be more modular shapes like cube, cuboid, cylinder or hexagonal prism. Also game is more simplified so PZ definitely will have more choices.
yoav_r said:
Now the question is:

How many species are we gonna get in an aviary expansion?

JWE2 has only 5, which is fine for pterosaurs, but not for modern birds
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There is no information about pterosaur number in JWE2 or yet entire dino roster. It is only rumour. We only know about 3 of them, whereas one is going to be in dlc (we can also count extra unknown pterosaur in deluxe edition).

Also btw, does anyone have that supposed bird list sent from SanDiego Zoo or it is debunked and worthless by now anyway.
 
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