3rd person view.

[Kael Maliai]

Best solution to this, IMO, just let the player get out of their ship even when not docked. We have space suits, with limited oxygen, just pop open the canopy and space walk. Just don't forget to tie a rope around your waist. XP But that would keep it from being an exploit, and ensures you can't do it for long periods of time. You'd wanna stop your ship, and it'd take time to get back in, so if someone finds you, you're a sitting duck. Just a thought. (PS, I say this knowing full well that Frontier has pretty much said this isn't gonna happen, just thinking out loud)

 

[Styggron]

Greetings

I'm talking way down the line here when we get to get out of the ships and walk around, I just watched what Star Citizen has to offer with their FPS play and was disturbed to see that they had 3rd person views.

I really hope ED does not follow this path but stick strictly to first person views, I really hate 3rd person it breaks immersion straight away.

What are everyone else's views on this subject?

SInce you ask I am the complete opposite, I hate the fact I have no 3rd person view. If I could turn the cockpit off and just have a HUD I would do it in an instant.

 

[Reacher]

I like the idea of a 3rd person view for screenshots, videos etc. As for combat just lock it to cockpit view only.

 

[xxThe_Dice_manxx]

Just to make it clear , I'm talking about when we are able to leave our ships and walk around, I think it should strictly be first person view only.The ship views have already been discussed elsewhere extensively.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

SInce you ask I am the complete opposite, I hate the fact I have no 3rd person view. If I could turn the cockpit off and just have a HUD I would do it in an instant.

Hmm - I know you guys might be overworked (still doing a great job), but did you even read the post you quoted there?

1. The OP is talking about a third person view in future out of ship expansions.
2. I assume you wont have a cockpit attached to your face when walking around (just a wild guess).
3. "Turning off the cockpit" isn't third person view, it's a wall hack - plain and simple. But sure - if the game would allow for that, I would feel forced to use it too, because not doing it would put me at a serious disadvantage.

 

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did the same thing

 

[letoras]

SInce you ask I am the complete opposite, I hate the fact I have no 3rd person view. If I could turn the cockpit off and just have a HUD I would do it in an instant.

So having external view for EVERYONE is unfair but turning cockpit off is not????
Also i dont get how this is disadvantage from the pointthat everybody has it.
Disadvantage is someone playing with a mouse with someone who plays with hptas and head tracker, not a feature yhat everyone can share.
Anyways i love to see my ship flying, I cannot imagine watching serenity or starwars etc without external shots....

 

[Krait_79]

Greetings

I'm talking way down the line here when we get to get out of the ships and walk around, I just watched what Star Citizen has to offer with their FPS play and was disturbed to see that they had 3rd person views.

I really hope ED does not follow this path but stick strictly to first person views, I really hate 3rd person it breaks immersion straight away.

What are everyone else's views on this subject?

I wouldn't want third person whilst flying. But I would like a cinrmatic mode where you can review your last flight with a free roam camera.

Would help make great youtube videos which in turn may attract more people to the game.

 

[letoras]

Would help make great youtube videos which in turn may attract more people to the game.

This is misleading.

 

[zamalek]

I'm up for anything, 3rd person, 1st person, walking in the ship, walking in the docks, landing on planets, you name it.

So long as it adds something to the game.

One of the Star Wars games had some of this stuff and there was a point to it, you could talk to NPCs and get missions - possibly take someone on board. That's good stuff. What isn't good is being able to explore your ship for no inherent purpose, that's a 10 day wonder and ultimately wasted development time and resources.

FD have said regarding 3rd person ships that the purpose is purely for screenshots. I can get 100% behind that.

 

[DaHunn]

1st person all the way, 3rd person will ruin the game.

 

[Styggron]

Hmm - I know you guys might be overworked (still doing a great job), but did you even read the post you quoted there?

1. The OP is talking about a third person view in future out of ship expansions.
2. I assume you wont have a cockpit attached to your face when walking around (just a wild guess).
3. "Turning off the cockpit" isn't third person view, it's a wall hack - plain and simple. But sure - if the game would allow for that, I would feel forced to use it too, because not doing it would put me at a serious disadvantage.

Goodness what did I write up there. I was doing 2 posts at once.....I can see the confusion.


Overworked ? I need some more adjectives there..............

So to clarify.

1. My preference would be to be able to go third person if people want or first and if first, to turn the cockpit off as well I would turn off the cockpit and have a hud like a shot if I could.

 

[Peytor]

I'm quite happy sitting in my cockpit looking out out at a first person view. It's probably been suggested before but what an MFD in the cockpit that lets you see a view from different external cameras mount on the ship. The pilot would then have to scroll through the camera views like cctv but still remain in the cockpit.

Peytor

 

[Luki]

3rd person will ruin the game.

For you maby, but not for many others.
Every decent sim has a free 3rd person view optional with a free look for screens and vids, i still dont get it why we need such restrictions.
If you dont want to use it then dont press the button.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

For you maby, but not for many others.
Every decent sim has a free 3rd person view optional with a free look for screens and vids, i still dont get it why we need such restrictions.
If you dont want to use it then dont press the button.

if we are talking about on foot (which is the topic of this thread), catpain kirk linked a nailed on example of why 3rd person view could offer a massively unfair advantage to those who choose to play the game in the original vision of elite.

unlike in ship external views, where I can see numerous ways to get around this, on foot I just cant see a way to get around the magical ability to see around and over walls or have perfect vision when hiding inside a bunker etc.

if you can think a way around this then I am sure a lot of people, inc the devs, will be all ears!. (and please do share as I am really interested in this topic!)

2nd spoilered video in the link below

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=54320&p=938645&viewfull=1#post938645

 

[NeoRacer]

NONONONONO! HISTORY BE DAMMNED! But what we will give you is a 'drone' view which means, you will see your own ship on tiny video screen on your dashboard somewhere with weird glitchy video effects (bcus its realistic) and you will be happy with it, and there will be no more talk of this nonsense. Got it?

For you maby, but not for many others.
Every decent sim has a free 3rd person view optional with a free look for screens and vids, i still dont get it why we need such restrictions.
If you dont want to use it then dont press the button.

 

[Luki]

Over and over i read the same stuff .. disadvantage, unfair mimimi.
Dont come with such arguments in a game like elite dangerous.

I play games to enjoy and i always loved to have the possability for 3rd person view.
If i want the full dosis i play how its meant to be but sometimes id like to relax and have a different angel.

Im not talking about realism, im talking about to have such stuff optional. Arma is the best example.

 

[letoras]

if we are talking about on foot (which is the topic of this thread), catpain kirk linked a nailed on example of why 3rd person view could offer a massively unfair advantage to those who choose to play the game in the original vision of elite.

unlike in ship external views, where I can see numerous ways to get around this, on foot I just cant see a way to get around the magical ability to see around and over walls or have perfect vision when hiding inside a bunker etc.

if you can think a way around this then I am sure a lot of people, inc the devs, will be all ears!. (and please do share as I am really interested in this topic!)

2nd spoilered video in the link below

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=54320&p=938645&viewfull=1#post938645

HOTAS and headtrack are also unfair. It's even more unfair because it's not everybody can get it (as in a feature of a game where everybody can have it). You can correct that with field of view of the camera (if you want to stay around a corner as shown in the nailed video you mention).
So if there is a "problem" when dogfighting, what about the rest of the game? ED is not all about combat as I have understand and an external camera is missing on that parts.

Imagine your favorite space film without external shots.......

 

[NeoRacer]

Your logic is flawed and it will never happen. Perhaps 'Star Citizen' is the game for people with 3rd person mindset?

Over and over i read the same stuff .. disadvantage, unfair mimimi. Dont come with such arguments in a game like elite dangerous. I play games to enjoy and i always loved to have the possability for 3rd person view. If i want the full dosis i play how its meant to be but sometimes id like to relax and have a different angel.

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NO! 3rd person is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MATTER! COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! BCUS!

HOTAS and headtrack are also unfair. It's even more unfair because it's not everybody can get it (as in a feature of a game where everybody can have it). You can correct that with field of view of the camera (if you want to stay around a corner as shown in the nailed video you mention).
So if there is a "problem" when dogfighting, what about the rest of the game? ED is not all about combat as I have understand and an external camera is missing on that parts.

 

[letoras]

Your logic is flawed and it will never happen. Perhaps 'Star Citizen' is the game for people with 3rd person mindset?



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NO! 3rd person is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MATTER! COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! BCUS!

Why? Please explain why having a headtrack is not advantage to someone that has not. Same with HOTAS versus mouse. I don't see why these are not advantages.
The problem occurs only for combat right?