State of the Game

Would like to clarify my OS is on a small SSD, my games are on a new SSD that's much bigger and my backup is the ol' original trusty rusty.
I never got on the SSD bandwagon when they came out, I held back until they got to be at least a reasonable size without making you take out a second mortgage. And by reasonable size I mean "nothing less than a TB".

They're there now, so I'm happy to switch. With an old-fashioned platter as a backup, of course.
 
We've always been doomed. It's in the script. We either get off this ball of dirt or we all die, no matter what we do, when the Sun expands. It's inevitable. Fretting about it is only going to make the time we've been granted more miserable.
We can greatly accelerate our decline though. I'm all for buying us more time until intervention is achieved
 
We've always been doomed. It's in the script. We either get off this ball of dirt or we all die, no matter what we do, when the Sun expands. It's inevitable. Fretting about it is only going to make the time we've been granted more miserable.
not just that, we are living on a really wild planet, which has a quite nice and welcoming phase currently - but this phase won't last, it will return to it's wild nature. it is just sad, that the genus homo doesn't even make it to 3 million years on this planet - what a lousy job we are doing in the only aspect what counts - survival. We are parasitic in nature and once we have exhausted those resources we need, we will decline to insignificance - not that nature would care, it has dealt with more crap like us before.
 
We can greatly accelerate our decline though. I'm all for buying us more time until intervention is achieved
I'm very much in favor of that. But setting ourselves back a century ahead of time isn't going to help anything. I have great faith in our ability to come up with better ways of using the resources we've been given. We'll get there. We've got the aforementioned ball of fire in the sky that is providing us with an enormous source of energy. Clean and not infinite, but for much longer than we need in order to come up with something better, yet we haven't yet quite figured out how to make it viable.

We will, though. My only objection is when people think that it'd be better to just try to turn back time a century. It won't work. Even if some nations did so, they'd only be supplanted by the ones who didn't, and then we'd be right back where we started.
 
not just that, we are living on a really wild planet, which has a quite nice and welcoming phase currently - but this phase won't last, it will return to it's wild nature. it is just sad, that the genus homo doesn't even make it to 3 million years on this planet - what a lousy job we are doing in the only aspect what counts - survival. We are parasitic in nature and once we have exhausted those resources we need, we will decline to insignificance - not that nature would care, it has dealt with more crap like us before.
All species are parasitical by nature. But we have intelligence, and that's a plus. We just need to not get ahead of ourselves and think that we can do what we can't. That way madness lies.
 
I'm very much in favor of that. But setting ourselves back a century ahead of time isn't going to help anything. I have great faith in our ability to come up with better ways of using the resources we've been given. We'll get there. We've got the aforementioned ball of fire in the sky that is providing us with an enormous source of energy. Clean and not infinite, but for much longer than we need in order to come up with something better, yet we haven't yet quite figured out how to make it viable.

We will, though. My only objection is when people think that it'd be better to just try to turn back time a century. It won't work. Even if some nations did so, they'd only be supplanted by the ones who didn't, and then we'd be right back where we started.

who's suggesting we turn back a century? I'm not drunk or high and I haven't read any such amish-ification drive being pushed by any country
 
who's suggesting we turn back a century? I'm not drunk or high and I haven't read any such amish-ification drive being pushed by any country
You're American like I am, right? How is reducing mobility going to work here? I know it would work fine in Europe, I grew up there, but it certainly wouldn't work where I live now where public transportation is non-existent because it's not financially viable.

What about uninterrupted power in order to access the Internet, which apparently we have to be able to at all times now? Where's that power going to come from? Unicorn farts? Because I remember this past February when we suddenly found out in Texas, much to our dismay, that the 25% of our energy production that we got from wind farms (not a problem since we have areas much larger than a lot of European nations that we have no other use for) didn't work when the wind mills froze over and we had no backup. Because "the environment".

The people who froze to death during that month would most likely have enjoyed having an alternative backup but, then again, they're dead now.
 
With a fragmented political and social climate you have to trust that every country, every county, every town, every borough, every household and every person will do their bit and not be greedy/lazy and that takes a herculean amount of faith in humanity which I'm sure I don't need to tell this chat is in very short supply.

That seeming inevitabilty of a negative outcome doesn't mean that we shouldn't try though or indeed make it worse.
 
All species are parasitical by nature. But we have intelligence, and that's a plus. We just need to not get ahead of ourselves and think that we can do what we can't. That way madness lies.
there will be done too little too late - due to selfishness - people won't pay for stuff what doesn't benefit them now and they will certainly not intentionally do anything what makes their lives more miserable now either. if our species would have a hive mind and be more drone-like, we could survive this, but we are individuals and selfish and just won't.
 
there will be done too little too late - due to selfishness - people won't pay for stuff what doesn't benefit them now and they will certainly not intentionally do anything what makes their lives more miserable now either. if our species would have a hive mind and be more drone-like, we could survive this, but we are individuals and selfish and just won't.
That's our ultimate downfall, I believe, but it's also, ironically, what makes life worth living. If I ever thought of myself as just another cog in a wheel (whether I am or not), I'd eat my shotgun. But you're not wrong.
 
there will be done too little too late - due to selfishness - people won't pay for stuff what doesn't benefit them now and they will certainly not intentionally do anything what makes their lives more miserable now either. if our species would have a hive mind and be more drone-like, we could survive this, but we are individuals and selfish and just won't.
That reminds me of a very oft-quoted line from Men In Black, which I find myself using quite a lot in life.

Will Smith's character turns to Tommy Lee Jones and says "Why can't we tell them?.. people are intelligent, they can handle it" To which Tommy replies "A person is intelligent, people are dumb, irrational, panicky things"

En masse we are collectively stupid as a large group.
 
there will be done too little too late - due to selfishness - people won't pay for stuff what doesn't benefit them now and they will certainly not intentionally do anything what makes their lives more miserable now either. if our species would have a hive mind and be more drone-like, we could survive this, but we are individuals and selfish and just won't.
Hell yeah!

I won't restrain myself from driving my no catalyst 20 years old car tuned to 630 HP for the sake of some future human who
a) doesn't deserve it
b) his life will be probably a miserable struggle anyway, if not for real reasons like climate collapse then he will make up excuses to be unhappy and pathetic, as most people do.
 
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All species are parasitical by nature. But we have intelligence, and that's a plus. We just need to not get ahead of ourselves and think that we can do what we can't. That way madness lies.
We also need to make sure we don't trick ourselves into thinking we aren't doing what we are, because not doing it would be more convenient. It is unfortunately the case that clever people are often very good at post-hoc rationalisation, and it would be a shame to discover that this holds true at the level of species too!

The big disagreement I have with modern green movements is opposition to nuclear power. Fewer deaths per kWh than any other power source. If we don't want to regress technologically, fossil fuels are much better used as sources of plastics, an important part of modernity that doesn't have a direct replacement available.
 
That's our ultimate downfall, I believe, but it's also, ironically, what makes life worth living. If I ever thought of myself as just another cog in a wheel (whether I am or not), I'd eat my shotgun. But you're not wrong.
Fermi Paradox proves that there is no use to try hard to avoid the inevitable anyway.
So, if the rules of the game are rigged, I frack the game and just want to have fun while I am onboard.
 
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