Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

I watched that video as well. I see people posting "nightmare" stories about SC and yet that video shows very few problems, though they do mention the random deaths.
Curated videos do not show the ugly bits because those are boring and do not make views. Those videos are made for views, to make money. Trust them at your peril. Or just buy an Idris 🤷‍♂️
Open mind and closed wallet... 2 watchwords for delving into SC
Yup.
 
With all those (former) Elite Dangerous influencers pushing Star Citizen, it was only inevitable that I had to try out the Free Fly event of Star Citizen this past week.

It didn't go well. Performance on my rig sits at 8fps at 1080p in Orison. Stuttering movement, rubberbanding NPCs.
Worst performance in Odyssey is something like 20fps at large mining settlements, but typically around 45fps+ at 1080p in settlements, for reference.

An SSD is required to install Star Citizen's 100GB+ gamefiles on, and also required is more then 16GB RAM. No exceptions.
They should just check for those two requirements and refuse to install/download if you don't meet this baseline.

Seeing how SaltEMike's 64GB RAM, 2TB NVMe SSD, 16c/32t 5950X CPU, 3090 RTX GPU rig costing him at least 3300€, essentially the best prosumer hardware available, still dives below 60fps at 1080p in parts where it matters has me wondering what some folks are smoking when playing Star Citizen.

Thing is; SaltEMike shows some gameplay and content -- so Star Citizen isn't vapourware; there is something there. Something unique.
I guess it's the power of imagination -- because it's very believable that Star Citizen can get much better than what it is today.

To be fair, it looks better than on his old rig... but for that price, it damn well should.
 
And at that point my suspension of disbelief fails hard.
One of my close mates playing regularly alongside us runs SC on an i7 6700, gtx1070 and 16Gb of RAM @1440p....and from a SATA SSD, not an NVME. I've watched his videos of our gameplay...they don't seem any different quality or FPS wise at almost identical quality settings from mine or @Intrepid3D's 🤷‍♂️

He runs everything at very high detail with volumetric clouds at medium, chromatic aberration, film grain and motion blur turned off...sharpening at max...same as I do although I run at 1080p not having 1440p monitors... I get a few more fps when the screen is busy, otherwise...he rarely complains of SC running like a slideshow unless it's also running like that for all of us.

Turning graphic quality down in SC makes it run worse...not better. Raising the detail level farms more work off to the GPU rather than clogging up the CPU with it which contrary to expectation, makes it run smoother.
 
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One of my close mates playing regularly alongside us runs SC on a gtx1070 and 16Gb of RAM @1440p. I've watched his videos of our gameplay...they don't seem any different quality or FPS wise at almost identical quality settings from mine or @Intrepid3D's 🤷‍♂️

He runs everything at very high detail with volumetric clouds at medium, chromatic aberration, film grain and motion blur turned off...sharpening at max...same as I do although I run at 1080p not having 1440p monitors... I get a few more fps when the screen is busy, otherwise...he rarely complains of SC running like a slideshow unless it's also running like that for all of us.

Its the "no problems" bit that got me. We're talking about SC here. Orison? No problem? On a 1070?

I'd like to see a video of that.

Also, a 1070, not exactly a cheap card. I don't have a direct price for one in Russia, but if a 1660 will cost me at least 40k, then i guess a 1070 (which is better according to benchmarks) I can only imagine will cost over 50k.
 
Its the "no problems" bit that got me. We're talking about SC here. Orison? No problem? On a 1070?

I'd like to see a video of that.

Also, a 1070, not exactly a cheap card. I don't have a direct price for one in Russia, but if a 1660 will cost me at least 40k, then i guess a 1070 (which is better according to benchmarks) I can only imagine will cost over 50k.
Ouch...those prices certainly sting a bit. But as @Intrepid3D mentioned...Katie Byrne is running on a GTX1060 and 16Gb of RAM, her videos of Orison don't seem bad by any standard 🤷‍♂️


Orison isn't great FPS wise for anyone...regardless of whatever you throw at it...but it's smooth enough. If I turn my fps monitor off, I'd hardly notice it was running at 25-40fps.
 
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Another one. And ED thinks ship interiors are boring. The whole reason why I refused to buy Odyssey was the lack of ship interiors. I was planning on walking around my FC or Cutter, but nope, decided to shoehorn an FPS inside of ED instead.

EDIT - well, lack of ship interiors was not the whole reason. I was also not impressed with the state of Horizons and feared that Odyssey would be a buggy mess. Yep.
Who told you interiors were coming in Odyssey?
 
Ouch...those prices certainly sting a bit. But as @Intrepid3D mentioned...Katie Byrne is running on a GTX1060 and 16Gb of RAM, her video of Orison didn't seem bad by any standard 🤷‍♂️


Orison isn't great FPS wise for anyone...regardless of whatever you throw at it...but it's smooth enough. If I turn my fps monitor off, I'd hardly notice it was running at 25-40fps.

In the thread i made about upgrading, people were steering me away from upgrading to a 1060 or equivalent for Odyssey saying it wasn't worth it. I should wait.

I'm struggling to bring varying viewpoints together with regards to both SC and EDO, and the only conclusion i can come to is both are terrible messes and hardware performance is downright random.
 
I know back in the day on SA there was some hypothesizing about possible limits on the amount of time audio and mocap could be in use, as per the actors' contracts, but I don't believe there was any reported legal action.

Now if you want to go back to Kevin Costner, that's a different story.

I'll keep looking, but I feel like I'm spinning my wheels on this one.
It may have been a Cease and Desist letter and stopped short of an actual suit, but Oldman was reportedly POed that they kept using his likeness in promotional stuff.
 
It may have been a Cease and Desist letter and stopped short of an actual suit, but Oldman was reportedly POed that they kept using his likeness in promotional stuff.
Still not finding one single hard reference or trace of any such action...his image is still being used by Ci¬G to promote Sqn 42... Urban myth ;)
 
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It may have been a Cease and Desist letter and stopped short of an actual suit, but Oldman was reportedly POed that they kept using his likeness in promotional stuff.

I'd personally still like to see a source. I mean, i know we get accused of being FUDsters a lot, but that's why its best to have sources for these sorts of things.

Sure, not all we talk about is verified, and sometimes exaggerated, but usually there is some sort of basis for it.
 
Just checked in on Bognogus, noticed he was streaming SC.

"Nothing is working".
There's a few of us in game at the moment...seems OK from our end barring the usual bugs 🤷‍♂️ There's 6 of us doing the 890J fps mission waiting for Xeno-fart to reinitialise, a couple mining....servers are stable-ish, no dramas....
 
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The simple answer? These guys certainly hinted at it ;)


Disclaimer: I don't have a horse in this race...so don't shoot the piano player :D

Can i shoot you just because i want to? :p

Yeah, Braben said he wanted interiors all those years ago, and if they don't come eventually, i'll be kind of miffed.

What I dislike most about it all is the CMs trying to wave it away. Like Arthur saying its no good without gameplay loops. SC doesn't have interior gameplay loops, but people love it regardless.

Why not just say "Its still something we'd like to do, but we don't have the time and resources at this point to dedicate to it."? That would go down a lot better (i think) than the stuff they come out with. We know FD can't throw hundreds of devs at it. We know stuff takes time. We saw how Odyssey took them years to do, and even if we can point to Helo Games/NMS doing stuff quicker, we know FD can't match that sort of output for whatever reason. But don't try and horse manure (apparently you can't even say Bee Ess on this forum) your way out of it. Just say, not on the cards at the moment and be done with it.
 
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