Agreed, but looking at this from a new player perspective this sucks.
I do have an FC and you can check my main account on Inara if you don't believe me.
COMPLETED CG The Colonia Bridge Project 2nd Phase - Alcor (Trade)
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I do have an FC and you can check my main account on Inara if you don't believe me.
All new players can get a free Anaconda at Hutton orbital, don't worry about the M landing pad there is another around the back of the station, takes a bit of finding though.
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It's not the first nor last CG.
Players who join a game that has been running for over six years can't reasonably expect to compete at the same level as those who have been playing for years after a few days of play.
Not sure what relevance this has to the discussion?
Most new players I've seen taking part in CGs are usually very happy that they've made some easy money.
I don't disagree that FCs have made doing CGs in a small ship a LOT more painful, although even just participating will net a new account more credits than most other small ship activities (high buy prices on the commodities and the credit reward) .
But here's the thing, should everything in game be balanced towards being "new account friendly" ?
You can literally see it through the windows.
(actually I haven't disembarked in an outpost yet, it would be great if you could take a selfie next to it)
Regarding fair/unfair then yeah I think your perceptions are a little off - extending your logic further then Thargoid combat would be unfair to a new player too.
Ultimately, it's your subjective opinion so it's moot really, but I hope you get over this unfair/fair perception and fly safe.
(actually I haven't disembarked in an outpost yet, it would be great if you could take a selfie next to it)
Regarding fair/unfair then yeah I think your perceptions are a little off - extending your logic further then Thargoid combat would be unfair to a new player too.
Ultimately, it's your subjective opinion so it's moot really, but I hope you get over this unfair/fair perception and fly safe.
Missing out on stuff still sucks and I'm way happier if I can contribute to a CG that unlocks stuff for everyone even if I don't want it myself.
Butter bei die Fische:
assuming playing in Solo and having the ability to evade NPC interdictions.
One ton of thermal whatsits would have netted you 25k.
A shieldless cargo sidey costs you 23k max (less if you start from the loaner Sidey) and nets you 16*25k = 400 k per run.
So that first run in a Sidey is almost enough to buy a shieldless, otherwise stock, cargo Cobra III. That one will get you 64*25k = 1.6 MCr. per run.
The first Cobra run lets you buy a T-6. That will get you 2.8 MCr per run.
Now it gets a bit steeper - the next step up would be a T-7 at ~19 MCr, i.e. ~7 runs in the T-6. Once you've got the T-7, though, you're alse excluded from those close by medium pads.
By the time you got the T-7, you've done 9 runs and delivered 16+64+7*114 = 878 tons of cargo. I'd put the first run's profits into an A-rated FSD. In order to reach the 2200 ton goal, you'll need 5 runs in that T-7 in total, so 16 runs overall. Taking the aforementioned 10 minutes per run, that's three hours. 4 hours if you need 15 minutes per run.
assuming playing in Solo and having the ability to evade NPC interdictions.
One ton of thermal whatsits would have netted you 25k.
A shieldless cargo sidey costs you 23k max (less if you start from the loaner Sidey) and nets you 16*25k = 400 k per run.
So that first run in a Sidey is almost enough to buy a shieldless, otherwise stock, cargo Cobra III. That one will get you 64*25k = 1.6 MCr. per run.
The first Cobra run lets you buy a T-6. That will get you 2.8 MCr per run.
Now it gets a bit steeper - the next step up would be a T-7 at ~19 MCr, i.e. ~7 runs in the T-6. Once you've got the T-7, though, you're alse excluded from those close by medium pads.
By the time you got the T-7, you've done 9 runs and delivered 16+64+7*114 = 878 tons of cargo. I'd put the first run's profits into an A-rated FSD. In order to reach the 2200 ton goal, you'll need 5 runs in that T-7 in total, so 16 runs overall. Taking the aforementioned 10 minutes per run, that's three hours. 4 hours if you need 15 minutes per run.
Robert Maynard.
Players who join a game that has been running for over six years can't reasonably expect to compete at the same level as those who have been playing for years after a few days of play.
The relevance ; I have played the game and know of what I speak. If the new player experience is not catered for the game will die a slow death.
Players who join a game that has been running for over six years can't reasonably expect to compete at the same level as those who have been playing for years after a few days of play.
Not sure what relevance this has to the discussion?
The relevance ; I have played the game and know of what I speak. If the new player experience is not catered for the game will die a slow death.
and what's wrong with the experience of new players? the most pleasant and interesting memories are the experiences of being a new player! every million credits improved your abilities and made you happy! this is the best and happiest time in the game. i do not see any problems with the experience of new players, some invented problem. but the experience of old players - yes. why should i spend billions of unnecessary credits? why the entire galaxy has as many ship models as in the soviet union of cars?
But you're not a new player.
Why fleet carriers and CGs actually suck from the player perspective, new or old, is that it favors those who can play on Thurs and Fri.
If CGs started on Friday evenings or Sat mornings it'd at least even things out a little.
If CGs started on Friday evenings or Sat mornings it'd at least even things out a little.
I gathered 2978 commodities for the cg and flew my carrier to a system next door to Alcor and dumped them at the CG station the first night it started.
Money is crap even if you get a top 10 so I was only interested in getting on the board for the rewards.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Money is crap even if you get a top 10 so I was only interested in getting on the board for the rewards.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
I barely held on to the 50% tier.
As Leo said, the payout for this one is crap, the real reward is the modules and the trade profits while doing the actual hauling. I made about 10 million in profit per run in a T-10 stuffed with thermal cooling units.
As Leo said, the payout for this one is crap, the real reward is the modules and the trade profits while doing the actual hauling. I made about 10 million in profit per run in a T-10 stuffed with thermal cooling units.
On my one delivery with a full hold of thermal cooling units I bagged 22m
Then I went to restock and I'd burned all the supply, I think they had 6 or 7 lol, so it was 4m per run for computer components after that. No time to mess around looking for more supply of the profitable stuff with limited game time and a CG moving that fast.The payout was fairly meh by CG standards but I still cleared a nice little payday from the trade profit and CG payout but as you say, the real reward is the FSDs - I get to add even more legs to my already absurd exploraconda, my bubble runabout/material gathering Courier will get a nice boost from the class 3 and I still haven't decided what to do with the class 4 - I suspect it will end up on my CM4 though, just to make it even more exclusive lol.
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Robert Maynard
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Prophecies of the game's imminent doom have been being made since the game design was published.
I was able to haul 4,848 units from a star port and it held its stock. I could tell other people were hitting the place too, but supply was only slowly dwindling because it was only other crazy people like me who would suffer 4 jumps and a 2k Ls supercruise jaunt.On my one delivery with a full hold of thermal cooling units I bagged 22m
On a day when I'd have more time to play I'd have considered that but it was a proper rush job for me yesterday, just found the closest location with a high supply of cheap stuff (2 jumps and 13 ls from the spawn) and went for it. I was so glad I engineered my T-9 years ago, 25 LY jump range when fully loaded really helps for CGs.
I went for thermal cooling units for this CG, not because I needed the money, but because I was curious to see how much profit I could rack up. 22 million for each Cutter-load, multiplied by 12 runs is a quite decent amount of money, and even transporting this in a Type 6 or 7 would make most new players rather wealthy in a matter of hours.
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