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nemolomen

nemolomen
LeoBartlet said:
The netflix marvel shows were even worse with 13 episodes and 60% of it could've been cut with zero impact.
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I didn't watch any of the individual shows but I did watch Defenders, which , while not what I remember from being a kid (The IM, CA, DS trilogy of super friends [PI]) I liked it.

As for Star Wars, I would love to get into it with all of you but I haven't watched them. The trailers were enough to tell me that I didn't want to watch them. I think I may have seen Rogue One though, not sure. I might just have to go watch them now...

Rubbernuke said:
I also hope its not as simple as 'collapse the gate network' and that Holden and Naomi wind up on separate sides (or Holden sacrifices himself).
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He would never do that, right? LOL

Back to SW: So when are we going to Disney Forums to play at getting them to backpedal and make it all right? 😉
 

CardioTherapy

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Darrack said:
I agree, im a total Star Wars freak, i watched the first one in the 70s with my dad and was hooked from then on.
BUT i am one of the few in my group of 'Geeks' who actually think the new ones are better.
Better filmed/written/acted, everything.
We tend to look at old films through rose tinted specs, the truth is back in the 70s/early 80s the CGI wasn't available to do the films justice.

Rogue One for me is head and shoulders above everything, why? because it tells a Star Wars story from the perspective of normal folks and not just a bunch of heros in ultra clean garments and settings.

Everyone is also quick to criticise Disney, yes they are a massive global money making machine and i have first hand knowledge of working with them, but they also take a lot of risks and there arnt many companies with thier vision or money to keep something like Star Wars going which requires huge budgets due to the expectations put on them by fans.
And if you ever take a little one to a Disney resort it will make you smile.

Just my take of over 45 years of being a SW nut.

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I support this. same age same fan.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
xzanfr said:
I nagged and nagged my mate in junior school to lend me 'splinter of the minds eye' but he left the country.
I don't hold a grudge but I hope Malta isn't all it's cracked up to be, Justin.
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Where would we be without Dean Foster? I have his adaption of the Alien Trilogy somewhere.

I think the only SW EU things I enjoyed were Shadows of the Empire and Dark Empire, along with the X Wing/ Tie Fighter games.

The further it strayed from the films the shoddier things got really.
 

thistle

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Last Jedi is a well made film, with some excellent 'stuff' in it.

It's just not in any way related to Star Wars. It's like the director was trolling us all, and Disney, and Abrams, and just created an entirely standalone movie but with someone else's cast.

Like Abrams Star Trek. I mean, good film, well made, great sound. Not Star Trek.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
thistle said:
Oh and Prometheus. I like that film.

Bog all to do with the Alien universe though, and shouldn't have been linked to it.
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Promtheus on paper was amazing in early (non Lindelof) drafts.. It was a story about the nature of life and its reason to be (and its consequences). Then it was diluted with other crap and that central pillar was lost.

It gave context to Alien and the juggernaut, and should have been thought provoking.

There are several very good fanedits of Prometheus though- A9 Prometheus being one.
 

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You
Rubbernuke said:
Where would we be without Dean Foster? I have his adaption of the Alien Trilogy somewhere.

I think the only SW EU things I enjoyed were Shadows of the Empire and Dark Empire, along with the X Wing/ Tie Fighter games.

The further it strayed from the films the shoddier things got really.
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Alan Dean Foster iirc, it think i had alien and aliens paperbacks by him. Probably a few others or i read them in the local/school library. Might come back to me but films mostly.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Banana's_Are_Good_For_You said:
Alan Dean Foster iirc, it think i had alien and aliens paperbacks by him. Probably a few others or i read them in the local/school library. Might come back to me but films mostly.
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The interesting thing is that he had access to scripts and incorporated a lot of unused or cut material.

For example in Alien (the novel) the airlock scene is added, and the facehugger is described like an earlier design (it had a single black 'eye').
 

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You

Banana's_Are_Good_For_You
Rubbernuke said:
The interesting thing is that he had access to scripts and incorporated a lot of unused or cut material.

For example in Alien (the novel) the airlock scene is added, and the facehugger is described like an earlier design (it had a single black 'eye').
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Dunno if i picked up on that but aliens had a lot more going on with the turrets than the original film release. Such a long time ago, cobwebs...
 

thistle

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Rubbernuke said:
Promtheus on paper was amazing in early (non Lindelof) drafts.. It was a story about the nature of life and its reason to be (and its consequences). Then it was diluted with other crap and that central pillar was lost.

It gave context to Alien and the juggernaut, and should have been thought provoking.

There are several very good fanedits of Prometheus though- A9 Prometheus being one.
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I remember the original trailers had a completely different structure to the story, which is obvious because in the trailer the attack in the srv loading bay was happening at the same time as old man Weyland was making his way in to the loading bay, he's and his team are there in the scene but edited out in the final film. Shaw is also the one driving the buggy that (reverses over?) the bloke. I read at the time that Ridley finished the film, gave it to his editor, and let him make all these changes. The film does seem to be an editing mess, I need to check the fanedit but I suspect we're just missing whole scenes the editor dropped.
 

thistle

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Rubbernuke said:
Promtheus on paper was amazing in early (non Lindelof) drafts.. It was a story about the nature of life and its reason to be (and its consequences). Then it was diluted with other crap and that central pillar was lost.

It gave context to Alien and the juggernaut, and should have been thought provoking.

There are several very good fanedits of Prometheus though- A9 Prometheus being one.
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Did the early script not have huge proto-aliens, a little like the white things in Covenant?

In any case, a tv series is the absolute worst idea, because it won't be Alien it'll be more AvP Requiem. Or the V Series.
 

thistle

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Now the film I really want to see made is Guillermo Del Toro's full-on 18 rated At The Mountains of Madness.
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Probably never happen now. I did enjoy Richard Stanley's Colour Out of Space though. Really good.
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