But that's how it works. Not every bit of the data has to be PII in order for you to have a right to get access to it. If that was the case the GDPR data priviledge would be useless, because you'd only get your credit card / street address back.
Snatchers was one of the best game I've ever played, and a true immersion, the kind I would love Elite to become. But, we were talking about ships here
No part of the actual save file has any personal data. They at most may have a random number that represents the number of your account in Frontier's database. It is not connected in any meaningful way that could be argued for.
No, but the save file is connected to your personal account, which has personal data. Therefore you have the right to access all of that data.
We were space specific. If you want my opinion, Snatcher kills the previously referenced titles!
Mega CD was a console (add-on) so technically still on-topic
I would say that having a reference number is very thin connection that couldnt be argued for successfully. It is just reaching. Technically the list of all accounts that did arx transaction on X day for example would be also available to you and it isnt.
Then you don't understand the nature of GDPR and why this is important. Otherwise it would be useless.
And saves are not connected to your account in any way either. They are just referencing it. What can also be the fact is that the account is referencing particular save number and then the save isnt even referencing your account. In practise nobody will give you saves.
Some light reading here:
Okay, request your save file from Frontier then pleaseSome light reading here:
Right to data portability
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I will gladly be proved wrongSome light reading here:
Right to data portability
Technically you could, it's up to SC if they honor that request
Just at a glance, the 'from one controller to another' is the thing that stands out, if I read that right (though the source is not the actual legal document), could it be construed that Sony/MS is one controller, and FDev is another controller? If so, there would be a path to get the info from MS/Sony and then hand it to FDev as part of a transfer mechanism.Some light reading here:
Right to data portability
Quick quote mine from the page:
"Sometimes the personal data an individual has provided to you will be easy to identify (eg their mailing address, username, age). However, the meaning of data ‘provided to’ you is not limited to this. It is also personal data resulting from observation of an individual’s activities (eg where using a device or service)."
Yes, you should be able to get all your save data from the cloud from MS/Sony. I'm sure FDev wouldn't be under any legal obligation to have a mechanism to add that data to their services though.
forgetting the nonsense in this thread. (and prefaced with the fact I am no coder). but it does make me wonder what crazyness is in the coding that FD don't have a fairly simple way of analysing a players profile and detecting the details of a Cmdr on PS4/xb1 Inc rank, money, arx.and all cosmetics and simply porting over to a different platform
For months I've been saying that EDO will never come to consoles and I've had so many people explaining to me (often in harsh terms) how much I was wrong and how much I knew nothing, and I was thinking: "How come they don't see what is happening?" Your comment gives me the same kind of feeling: how come you don't see that getting rid of consoles is the biggest step in the right direction for years from Frontier, a real decision, a bold one, that will enable the game to move on... Frontier has been extremely slow at delivering, yep, and EDO was a bumpy ride but Elite is the backbone of Frontier, and space sims are one of the fastest growing area in gaming: they will never exit it as they are currently Number 1 in a sweet spot that is about to get sweeter (no wonder pretty much all the big studios have plans in that field). If needed, they will get outside investors onboard or raise money among their current shareholders and Tencent, for exemple, will answer to the call. I would not be surprised plans like that are already on the move, behind the scene.On the topic at hand though I feel sorry for the console players. I saw some people defending the decision using the argument that you can still play Horizons. The point is Elite is a live service game that after 10 years is still missing at least half of the originally promised content. The game on consoles i effectively dead as who will want to play vastly inferior version of a game that is sliding by on potential (remember the promise of multiple new SRV variants coming soon after Horizons launch? xD) instead of its current state knowing it will never get better? Knowing that the "mile wide and ich deep" state will be a status quo forever?
If you think that ditching the console versions will improve the quality and content of the updates you are sorely mistaken. The most likely scenario is that the devs who were going to take care of that just got delegated to the F1 Manager 2022 from Frontier and it definitely will result in the decrease of resources put into Elite as according to polls and the discord servers I am in the console pop is around 30% of the playerbase. Now detract the $ that will not come anymore from the sale of cosmetics on the consoles and look at Elite Steam charts which are struggling hard and there is no financial reason for Fdev to put much effort into Elite. Does that mean the servers will soon close? No. What that means that we might get 6-12 months (an example not a thought out prediction) of some small updates and then the game will move into maintenance mode.
To people who think it will not happen because it is Braben's pet project. David Braben is a CEO of a huge company with shareholders he is accountable to. First off, it might have been his pet project 40 years ago but nowadays I seriously doubt he spares much thought to it apart from when something is seriously wrong and he has to do damage control personally. He is not involved with Elite at all for years now (apart from making apologies for the Odyssey fail) and in business there is no place for wasting money, time or manpower for something that is unrecoverable at this point and is part of the reason the stock of your company is losing value rapidly (just check the graph on google). If nixing Elite completely meant 1% increase in revenue for the next financial years he would surely do it in a heartbeat.
In the end I will say I am a PC player who hasn't touched Elite since May 2021 with 1.6k hours in the game. I will prob get the standard "why visit here if you dont play anymore" and "Odyssey is beter now" type of responses from people that are still deluded due to sunk cost fallacy but I can deal with it. Odyssey is still performing worse than Cyberpunk and I dont see any actual content added there to those bare bones, buggy foundaments. Each update still completely borks the game. As to why I visit? There is something to be said about watching a horrific trainwreck in morbid fascination and not being able to look away. In fact it is quite funny watching all that incompetence and mind boggling mess once you are not longer affected by the mess and able to distance yourself
For the players who still enjoy the game I want to say that I hope it turns out I am wrong and that it will become fantastic. I Don't think I am though. For the console players I just want to say to not dwell on it too much, find another fun game and just enjoy watching the disasters coming soon to the game
They already have APIs like that in place since the 3rd party tools we have for ED work with it. And some people here said they've accidentally done it in the past, too. So the means are there, I think it's more about creating an automated (and fool proof) system to transfer all of that correctly. Or it could be something else than technical solutions that's the issue.
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