Elite studio should be sold

I hope here is freedom of speach and I can freely tell my opinion. I am very sorry, I dont want be rude or insult somone, but after so long time of lies, broken promises, bugs and schedules I am kinda out of patience. David Braben told us he dont will sell ED studio. But for me its like he is holding this dying corpse and dont want release it to someone who can heal it. We love this game and I belive Fdevs does too. But in every case of love if something goes wrong and one in realationship suffers from that love, we should let that person go. I dont understand why you cant just admint you took biger bite than you can handle. I think for example Microsoft could save this game. I know you will delete this posts very quicky, but nevermind. At least you will just know one voice from thousands devoted and disappointed customers.
No thx. Better the devil you know. I find you should always be very carefull what u wish for.
 
And the first thing they (and yes, probably I would do if it were me) is charge a monthly fee to play. They certainly don't make money on ARX, do they? I haven't purchased ARX in over a year. Any corporation purchasing ED is going to want a return on investment. Yes, they'll lose a bunch of current customers that only want to play for free, but they may gain more as the monthly fee would (in theory, anyway) (1) pay for more robust servers resolving instancing issues and (2) pay for programmers to resolve bugs, fix issues, and provide more content.

Not that I'd LIKE a monthly fee, but if anyone expects that things would get better if ED were sold to something like M$, this would be something one could (and should) expect.
Credits are being sold via a third party website as well as some fleet carrier owners selling commodities cheap for cash.
 
And the first thing they (and yes, probably I would do if it were me) is charge a monthly fee to play. They certainly don't make money on ARX, do they? I haven't purchased ARX in over a year. Any corporation purchasing ED is going to want a return on investment. Yes, they'll lose a bunch of current customers that only want to play for free, but they may gain more as the monthly fee would (in theory, anyway) (1) pay for more robust servers resolving instancing issues and (2) pay for programmers to resolve bugs, fix issues, and provide more content.

Not that I'd LIKE a monthly fee, but if anyone expects that things would get better if ED were sold to something like M$, this would be something one could (and should) expect.

And there's your problem straight away. Not many MMO's out there that still charge a monthly fee. And you want to alienate the community from FD even more? Laughable at best. With the current niche player base of a few thousand regular players, i very much doubt FD will be fattening their coffers with a subscription plan, compared to other MMO's that have much larger player bases, but do perfectly ok because they have regular content added, like Star Trek Online and Guild Wars 2 to name but two. STO has roughly 140k players per day and GW2 has around 470k. All free to play as well.
 
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they have regular content added, like Star Trek Online and Guild Wars 2 to name but two. STO has roughly 140k players per day and GW2 has around 470k
And the way THEY'RE doing it is the way FD should be doing it. FD does have the entire Milky Way to toy with, for deity's sake.
 
But neither of them are subscription based, same as Ed. So the only difference between them and elite is they put regular content into their games. Therefore you don't need to pay monthly
 
I hope here is freedom of speach and I can freely tell my opinion. I am very sorry, I dont want be rude or insult somone, but after so long time of lies, broken promises, bugs and schedules I am kinda out of patience. David Braben told us he dont will sell ED studio. But for me its like he is holding this dying corpse and dont want release it to someone who can heal it. We love this game and I belive Fdevs does too. But in every case of love if something goes wrong and one in realationship suffers from that love, we should let that person go. I dont understand why you cant just admint you took biger bite than you can handle. I think for example Microsoft could save this game. I know you will delete this posts very quicky, but nevermind. At least you will just know one voice from thousands devoted and disappointed customers.
Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to slag off, belittle and abuse hardworking people who know considerably more than you do about games, development and finance. I hope the CMs or Forum Mods close this thread down. If you knew anything about Frontier (David Braben( and Elite you'd know how bad this post is.
 
I hope here is freedom of speach and I can freely tell my opinion. I am very sorry, I dont want be rude or insult somone, but after so long time of lies, broken promises, bugs and schedules I am kinda out of patience. David Braben told us he dont will sell ED studio. But for me its like he is holding this dying corpse and dont want release it to someone who can heal it. We love this game and I belive Fdevs does too. But in every case of love if something goes wrong and one in realationship suffers from that love, we should let that person go. I dont understand why you cant just admint you took biger bite than you can handle. I think for example Microsoft could save this game. I know you will delete this posts very quicky, but nevermind. At least you will just know one voice from thousands devoted and disappointed customers.
I'm right there with you!
And very brave to post it in this forum of all places - the forum here is the most toxic, biased and unfriendly that I know ...

The "true" and "real" community is quite somewhere else
 
Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to slag off, belittle and abuse hardworking people who know considerably more than you do about games, development and finance. I hope the CMs or Forum Mods close this thread down. If you knew anything about Frontier (David Braben( and Elite you'd know how bad this post is.
yes?! it does! Just because you don't like the opinion of others, it doesn't give you the right to simply negate the "right of one's own opinion" and to twist it as if it would be completely OK if the thread were closed here, do you realize it yourself yet?
 
yes?! it does! Just because you don't like the opinion of others, it doesn't give you the right to simply negate the "right of one's own opinion" and to twist it as if it would be completely OK if the thread were closed here, do you realize it yourself yet?

If that's true and you can say anything you want that would be strange. All versions of free speech comes with something called consequences, things like banning from the forums, being called out for being rude and attacking others, if you really think free speech means having the right to say anything you want, it also gives other people the right to say anything they want, and it does indeed give them the right to simply negate it, by opposing it, or FDEV the right to just remove it if they so wish.

I love people who go all, "my free speech" then attack other people also employing that same right. The fact is, this is a private forum, you don't actually have the right to say anything you want here because the rules are set by FDEV and your public rights don't mean a thing, this is a private forum with its own rules. You follow the forum rules that you agreed to when you sign up, that's where your right begin and end!
 
And the first thing they (and yes, probably I would do if it were me) is charge a monthly fee to play. They certainly don't make money on ARX, do they? I haven't purchased ARX in over a year. Any corporation purchasing ED is going to want a return on investment. Yes, they'll lose a bunch of current customers that only want to play for free, but they may gain more as the monthly fee would (in theory, anyway) (1) pay for more robust servers resolving instancing issues and (2) pay for programmers to resolve bugs, fix issues, and provide more content.

Not that I'd LIKE a monthly fee, but if anyone expects that things would get better if ED were sold to something like M$, this would be something one could (and should) expect.

I disagree, required subscriptions are old school. If someone bought up ED they would monetize the heck out of it. Do something wacky and fun, like: you get 2 ship slots, and if you want to own more ships you have to buy additional slots with ARX. Add some ARX-store-only ships that have better capabilities than the credit-purchased ships that peasants fly in. Guns, components, all of it: better versions on the ARX store.

Loot boxes.

And THEN they would add an "optional" subscription that relieves some of the pressure that their new and improved ARX store has put on the game. For just 15.99 a month get unlimited ship slots, a monthly grant of 500 ARX, and best of all: the maintenance ARX cost of owning a fleet carrier is switched back to the old credits system (ARX maintenance, you ask? well that's a change that comes in the same patch that introduces the optional subscription).

Probably add in some log-in rewards. Log in for 30 consecutive days and get a green loot box!

They'd also fix a ton of bugs, like having to log out in order to browse the store. Fixed right away! Now when you log in, or jump to a new system, the ARX store helpfully opens op for you center-screen!

And these are just off-the-top-of-my-head some optimistic predictions about what a new owner that just shelled out millions of dollars would do in order to start seeing an immediate revenue stream from ED. Money does indeed solve problems, but only the problems that money cares about.
 
So what's UE's example of proceduraly generating a full sized planet? I don't think I have seen it used on that scale yet.
To be fair, Unreal 5 may be up to that task with Nanite. I've said elsewhere but I really hope that FDev are analyzing the Lumen & Nanite features with a view to implementing them in Cobra. The Matrix cityscape was procgen down to individual furnished apartments and offices in every building along with all the other stuff going on, like traffic & walking npcs. We want earthlike planets with living cities, this is the way to get that.
 
And the first thing they (and yes, probably I would do if it were me) is charge a monthly fee to play. They certainly don't make money on ARX, do they? I haven't purchased ARX in over a year. Any corporation purchasing ED is going to want a return on investment. Yes, they'll lose a bunch of current customers that only want to play for free, but they may gain more as the monthly fee would (in theory, anyway) (1) pay for more robust servers resolving instancing issues and (2) pay for programmers to resolve bugs, fix issues, and provide more content.

Not that I'd LIKE a monthly fee, but if anyone expects that things would get better if ED were sold to something like M$, this would be something one could (and should) expect.
I would go another way, I posted this elsewhere way back and am still quite keen on the idea, implemented correctly. And that would be to open up a small bubble of a few systems as free to play, these players can get a provisional pilots license, access to a restricted set of ships; Sidewinder, Adder, Hauler, Eagle & Viper Mk III, along with restricted outfitting, no engineering, bgs etc.. with lots of cosmetic options. These players can earn unlimited credits and a reduced arx rate which then carry over when they decide to purchase the full license that unlocks the rest of the game. Though these systems would also be accessible to regular commanders too. Even throw in a couple of Odyssey settlements.
 
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