Just read through it. Brilliant really. It would be like adding a fresh new game within the game, without needing to change any of the base game fundamentals or mechanics, or develop any new assets.On the subject of power play, is there any chance you seen my recent power play topic? I believe I fixed most of the issues, and if creating a framework around which an enjoyable new power-play could be created. However, I'd love to hear any comments you might have.
Powerplay - Powerplay 2.0 - What is Power Play? What is Politics? Why Powerplay doesn't have either one...but it should.
Welcome to Powerplay 2.0. This is the most comprehensive rework of Powerplay I've ever written, or seen. Clocking in at over 6300 words, it's very long, and very detailed. Rest assured, the experienced Powerplay can skip much of it, as I've added a great deal of detail to help those less...forums.frontier.co.uk
What Elite needs going forward
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I was being facetious, Eric.
General edit to add - Some of you folks take this game/these forums way too seriously...
The immersion is there, and FC interiors are nice to have feature but they really don’t bring any new gameplay. I want to give example with ship interiors in SC where they bring unique gameplay features. if FC interiors bring some important gameplay that cannot be achieved without them will be great. And yes, I play equally both games for long time so it is first person experience.
Gameplay. Elite needs fresh new gameplay loops bringing together the space and on foot experience and exploration. What Elite is unique for is the vast galaxy and its exploration element which today is very basic. I love Elite and have played it for over 2 years but I find myself bored with all existing gameplay loops and insane grindiness.
Hard to tell when someone is being serious or facetious. The number of people who think FD can just wave a wand and make stuff happen immediately is surprisingly high.
Carrier interiors may bor be super useful but i will tell you that i will NEVER jump my carrier in ship again. This is a lil sneak at ship interiors. They may not be super useful BUT their value comes from the feeling you get. And the immersion that comes from it.
I would like to see more work done with hired crew members i would like to be able to bring them on missions and accompany me on planetary missions allow them to make use of ships I'm not currently using allow them to be apart of my wing and issue commands allow me to give them a request to start trading or to head out and mining
There is no forward, up or left in space. It's all relative.
My belief is the number one priority for Fdev right now should be attacking balance, overall.
Elite has many great characteristics that have stood the test of time for years now.
Balance is not one of them.
Whether it's accumulation of credits, missions, the myriad variables of combat, grind levels, methods of grinding, this game is one of the worst experiences I've had in terms of balanced and authentic gameplay loops. And I'm a survivor of the likes of World of Tanks and Mechwarrior Online.
All the technical and screenshot-worthy pizazz in the world won't fix that issue. It needs dedicated focus and prioritization.
Elite has many great characteristics that have stood the test of time for years now.
Balance is not one of them.
Whether it's accumulation of credits, missions, the myriad variables of combat, grind levels, methods of grinding, this game is one of the worst experiences I've had in terms of balanced and authentic gameplay loops. And I'm a survivor of the likes of World of Tanks and Mechwarrior Online.
All the technical and screenshot-worthy pizazz in the world won't fix that issue. It needs dedicated focus and prioritization.
But what good does more balance do to attract bored existing players back to the game?
I would ask FDev to provide an SDK and allow 3rd party content: missions, etc.. Use the restricted sectors for it to not interfere with the synchronicity of the open world for those who don't purchase such content. First of all, FDev allow you to tick the box to be willing to be approached for such content. Then you get approached for missions by an NPC in the game telling you what the cost is and some rough scope information. You can visit some Alliance/Federation/Empire Authority office to purchase the permit to access restricted system - and then the mission (tree) unfolds. But obviously no unique or better rewards than available for comparable effort in the base (Odyssey) game. Pure entertainment, no pay to win.
I would definitely be open to pay for such 3rd party content if it is entertaining, and spices up the experience, gives some more sense to what I am doing...
I would ask FDev to provide an SDK and allow 3rd party content: missions, etc.. Use the restricted sectors for it to not interfere with the synchronicity of the open world for those who don't purchase such content. First of all, FDev allow you to tick the box to be willing to be approached for such content. Then you get approached for missions by an NPC in the game telling you what the cost is and some rough scope information. You can visit some Alliance/Federation/Empire Authority office to purchase the permit to access restricted system - and then the mission (tree) unfolds. But obviously no unique or better rewards than available for comparable effort in the base (Odyssey) game. Pure entertainment, no pay to win.
I would definitely be open to pay for such 3rd party content if it is entertaining, and spices up the experience, gives some more sense to what I am doing...
By the by, obtaining funds for a carrier isn't that wearisome. Just have to know where to look for profit. Look up the PTN, earning profit ingame is what they do.
Providing an SDK for third party content is quite impossible in a shared universe experience.
And you're describing a "mission wrinkle" that already occurs ingame, albeit infrequently. Ironically including the "no unique or better rewards" bit that means it just gets largely ignored, but I digress.
The main reason for the hiatuses I've taken with Elite Dangerous is the issue of balance. And I believe it's the main cause, in one form or another, for the departure of most of the game's most visible community presences such as ObsidianAnt.
if it was for that, then let no one take 5 minutes to travel from system to system, let's press a button and arrive, let's not fight other ships, let's not pilot, walk on foot or target our enemies... All arguments against inside of the ships, they will always be stupid.
There is nothing wrong with some travel time. But there is a fine line between extensive and meaningless travel time and gameplay.
One example: There is no meaningful gameplay to walking from the hangar to the concourse. I get it, it's for immersion. But from a gameplay perspective, it doesn't add anything to the game.
If you could interact with your ship, or do something, it would be gameplay. But at this stage, all you do is run from the teleporter pad to the concourse. It was great for the first 2 times. now I just fly a small ship if I have to go to concourses to cut down on walking that much because I value my time over "immersion".
This surely is true for those playing Open. I for my part, not being into PvP, avoid Open to the largest degree - only when far outside the bubble I would allow for encounters as they are more likely to be friendly (but then again aren't at all likely to happen).
This is why I was referring to using restricted systems - so it would ideally not interfere with the general shared universe.
The existing mission wrinkle is too little too rarely happening. See, this Ram Tah stuff was a really great experience. And frankly, I am not sure it demands huge efforts to create that kind of missions, especially when you revert to Eighties' style text box communication and multiple choice responses. And yet I was highly entertained at the time (okay, the 200 mio. was obviously a high reward, but then again doing the Sothis passenger run achieves more in less time).
If these missions are entertaining and even provide some story line it would get me back into the game big time. And adding a mechanic of having to pay some running costs for your ships, sort of the concept of the fleet carriers, would keep you busy to have to earn some money and not stack the bank account once you have made it. Not too much, so it doesn't end up in a stupid grind, and only if you actually play to not punish players who take a couple of weeks/months off.
I can imagine that there are wildly differing demands from the PvP fraction primarily playing Open, and those of us who perhaps play PG or Solo to experience ED w/o the PvP part. For me the balance thing is largely irrelevant to my style of play, but the motivation in terms what is there to experience is where it is lacking sorely.
Definitely need revamps/upgrades/expansions to existing gameplay loops. In particular, piracy, smuggling, powerplay, exploration and ship missions, in general, all need some love and attention from FDev.
For me at least, FC interiors have satisfactorily demonstrated that ship interiors would not be a great use of dev time and don't add a lot to the game beyond the novelty factor. I was bored of larking around inside my FC within less than 30 minutes and have little reason to return there.
For me at least, FC interiors have satisfactorily demonstrated that ship interiors would not be a great use of dev time and don't add a lot to the game beyond the novelty factor. I was bored of larking around inside my FC within less than 30 minutes and have little reason to return there.
Agreed, with the example of exploration.
I used to love exploring vast distances from the bubble, where travel time was massive but the prospect of finding interesting locations far away from where anybody else had ever been was really cool. With increased jump distances and Fleet Carriers the cool novelty of deep space exploration is gone.
Unfortunately there is no way to bring back the cool novelty of deep space exploration. You can still travel the big distances ad nauseum, but it is meaningless.
I don't know maybe adding geomagnetic storms, radio blackouts and solar radiation storms would improve exploration while we are at it lets add in comets give the players the ability to track and monitor them over distances with probes maybe we can experience a comet smashing into a planet why not experience planets or stars colliding or maybe being able to watch a star explode