The Kickstarter was actually in 2012… 2011 was when development started. Since they conflated the two, we can safely disregard the entire post, and everything is fine in Star Citizen land. Checkmate, FUDsters!
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Thought this Refunds/SA musing on the salvage tool was interesting:
A hobbyist recreation of the salvage beam said:Making salvage hull stripping and repair
Seven years ago CIG showcased their 'new damage model' where weapons chewed up and broke through the hull. My impression at the time was "Wow this is cool, industry-leading tech"!
Seven years is a long time, in it I began a new hobby of 3D art and developed that skill constantly. Now, CIG again shows the same thing but called as T0 salvage, and my reaction is different. This time I think.. "I see how it works and it's very simple". So simple I made it for practice in a few hours.
It features a black and white texture, or "damage map". The salvage and repair beams play the role of a paint brush. Add black for damage, white for repair. This texture then drives things in the shader like transparency, and a height effect to the edges to make it appear 3D.
I also made this functional, driving a number up and down to represent accurately material gained or spent. I barely know any code but a bit of Python, fortunately it barely required much code.
Hull stripping gives a lot of visual feedback, you can point your beam at a bit that's "already done", so not good to use a simple depleting value. Instead I refer to the damage map, calculating how much the values in the texture change. This can return a number going up or down accurate to the visual. For script and network use it's good to make a small dupe like 96x96 px and handle with that.
I also decided to add a second black and white texture "Structure Map", to try improving the effect. Solving floating bits of hull not touch the structure, and the hull being left clean rather than a wreck.
The structure map is used as a basis to compare the damage map against: Cull non-black value islands that fail to overlap the structure map. Secondly if clamped then multiplied together the damage only reaches transparency with the structure map's help, which I used to add under-layer grunge.
Generously assuming the bits I missed increase the complexity literally 1000 times, that is still only 12 weeks work for one person (3.18 longer away than that)! They delayed salvage 6 years, now they will give this, and these devs will make the dream true? I'm not saying it isn't fun tech, but if this is one of their big achievements of the year that is actually ridiculous. Same with buy/sell. They may be getting people hyped on gameplay now but they are still picking low hanging fruit, 100%.
A dev counter-point on possible complexity said:
On the grounds that the Coffee Vendor was the work of a new Junior hire, and that made it in, I'll place money on Salvage making it
Hell, throw in the "The River" feeling like the passion project of a 'first job out of college' Engineer, and a lot of the stuff fleshing out these slender patches seems to be C Team stuff at best. Which would makes sense, if all the experienced heads are busy trying to headbutt SQ42 into shape
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Oh talking of shoddy Tier 0 implementations, this guy thinks Trip Mines may have been quietly removed ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Laser trip mines removed? said:
Laser trip mines removed? - Star Citizen Spectrum
For the last two weeks I’ve been doing a lot of searching wrecks, investigations etc basically grinding gear collection for resale and I can’t remember the last time I came across any trip mines....
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Anything to do with gameplay.
Thought this Refunds/SA musing on the salvage tool was interesting:
On the grounds that the Coffee Vendor was the work of a new Junior hire, and that made it in, I'll place money on Salvage making it
Hell, throw in the "The River" feeling like the passion project of a 'first job out of college' Engineer, and a lot of the stuff fleshing out these slender patches seems to be C Team stuff at best. Which would makes sense, if all the experienced heads are busy trying to headbutt SQ42 into shape
Hmm... Star Citizen is the best damn place to go and look at the stuff developers usually throw out ever made.
Yeah the current PU output is so far from 'BDSSE' content it’s pretty absurd. Proper MVP stuff half the time. (The inventory system is comically meh…)
If it turns out they really have just switched off collision to make the Hull A vaguely function, to get some long-promised shiny out the door, then that’s just another hack job on the pile…
I couldn't even conceive of the damage he could've caused if he'd dropped a Mentos in there
This kind of implementation process is as absurd and naive as the "look how stunning this [insert old IP glory] remade in Unreal Engine is !"Thought this Refunds/SA musing on the salvage tool was interesting:
On the grounds that the Coffee Vendor was the work of a new Junior hire, and that made it in, I'll place money on Salvage making it
Hell, throw in the "The River" feeling like the passion project of a 'first job out of college' Engineer, and a lot of the stuff fleshing out these slender patches seems to be C Team stuff at best. Which would makes sense, if all the experienced heads are busy trying to headbutt SQ42 into shape
I mean yeah it looks great, people that made it seem quite talented, but there's a world between a roughly stitched proof of concept and a fully fledged game.
SC is a monetized inextricably entangled mess of a patchwork of tier-0 proofs of concept raised as business model.
CIG should offer that person a job!!Thought this Refunds/SA musing on the salvage tool was interesting:
On the grounds that the Coffee Vendor was the work of a new Junior hire, and that made it in, I'll place money on Salvage making it
Hell, throw in the "The River" feeling like the passion project of a 'first job out of college' Engineer, and a lot of the stuff fleshing out these slender patches seems to be C Team stuff at best. Which would makes sense, if all the experienced heads are busy trying to headbutt SQ42 into shape
Proof of wife video…
Source: https://www.twitter.com/SandiRoberts42/status/1512857185490911234
(I swear she’s still going out of her way to make him seem as dopey as possible…)
Source: https://www.twitter.com/SandiRoberts42/status/1512857185490911234
(I swear she’s still going out of her way to make him seem as dopey as possible…)
That's awesome, they should make a 3D paint tool that does that, and call it something like "Substance Painter", and then sell it to Adobe
Oh talking of shoddy Tier 0 implementations, this guy thinks Trip Mines may have been quietly removed ¯\(ツ)/¯
Laser trip mines removed? - Star Citizen Spectrum
For the last two weeks I’ve been doing a lot of searching wrecks, investigations etc basically grinding gear collection for resale and I can’t remember the last time I came across any trip mines....
Oh, nope. Here they are, bringing that 90s gaming vibe to the prison escape
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/u00j79/ptu_317_the_prison_escape_route_now_features/
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CIG's new object culling technique?
Well, all she needs to do is put him in the front of the camera and he will make himself look dopey.
But whatever happened to the Chris of old who would expand the scope of the game every time he appeared on video? Makes one wonder if he really has been gagged.
Spectrum today.
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Topic alone gives you an idea of what the comments will be like
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And this one has the comment of the day:
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I don't recall CIG ever talking about virtual air flowing through virtual pipes prior to the end of 2015. First i heard of that was from CR around 2020.
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So much copium. So many people dodging the actual point. So many people seem to be saying its fine they may never see a released game in their lifetimes.
- Star Citizen Spectrum
Was just doing my monthly check-in on where StarCitizen is at development. From what I've seen not a lot has really changed, ship-to-ship refueling doesn't look bad but is completely pointless...
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Topic alone gives you an idea of what the comments will be like
Feature creep still? - Star Citizen Spectrum
Hey guys, I have backed this game for quite some time now and although I wouldn't consider myself an active player (at all) I do stop by now and then to see what's happening, watch some YouTube...
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And this one has the comment of the day:
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I don't recall CIG ever talking about virtual air flowing through virtual pipes prior to the end of 2015. First i heard of that was from CR around 2020.
I know it's alpha but... - Star Citizen Spectrum
Back in 3.10 I was cargo hauling. But cargo losses were high between bugs and attackers and evenutally I moved away from it. So I started player bounty hunting. That was fun; but the people with...
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So much copium. So many people dodging the actual point. So many people seem to be saying its fine they may never see a released game in their lifetimes.
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Hmmm - wasn't there talk and diagrams and flowcharts and videos and all other sorts of bumpf about differential and partial pressures and argon percentages and having to "Go to Engineering to seal off a bulkhead"?
The dates escape me and I'm absolutely not going to trawl for it - but it was certainly prior to 2020.
Yeah, the simulated piping sounds familiar. But then, like a limit approaching infinity everything sounds familiar after a while with SC "dev".
Prior to 2015 though?