yesNot a doom thread by any means, more like a serious question.
Many Bugs, some that have existed for Years, some even Game breaking, are not adressed, do not get fixed or get failed fix attempts never to be mentioned again, cost to much ressources to fix.
Console is canceled, many, MANY cosmetics are still broken after a year. Lighting is still broken. Heck not even the normal combat Music in space works correctly after almost a year.
No new Ships, no playable (or rather somewhat playable) Story like with the Guardians or the Goids. The Performance is still down the toilet.
Is Frontier not willing to put enough money into Elite to get it into a good state anymore? Is the Code just to broken to be fixed?
What are your genuine opinions on this matter?
Have a good day
Is ED nearing the end of its lifespan?
- Thread starter Einar Donarsson
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is that the cover for the thargoid ground combat expansion?
ED is surely far from DOOM (the state, not the game) but I think we all can agree that there are many things that went very wrong in the last year (or even earlier).
I kind of picture this as the intro to Monty Python and the Holy Grail where they go through the list of people who have been sacked in developing the intro lol. Someone for sure got sacked for Odyssey.
ED reached EOL last summer for me. I haven't actually played since then. There is only one issue stopping me from returning, but I have little faith it will be fixed.
Edit: I'll give more details as a reply in a few hours. I need to include a link that I can't find in the middle of the workday.
Edit 2: See post #93
Edit: I'll give more details as a reply in a few hours. I need to include a link that I can't find in the middle of the workday.
Edit 2: See post #93
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Well you have us on the edge of our chairs now... which one?
I'm going to go with either Power Play or that they show planets as "spheres" when clearly we live on a disc.
Everyone knows it's on the back of a turtle. I don't understand why it's not shown like this?
Immersion is broken!
That's would be a very positive turn of events, but given they would need to spend more money developing single player content than their siloed sandbox tools approach they've taken since launch.. i don't imagine that likely.
Also imo the strongest narrative content frontier has produced to date has been jurassic world evolution.. so much so frontier even sold it explicitly as a feature. It turned out to be nothing more than running commentary over mission objectives. There was NO overarching story. Im waiting to be proven wrong, but something makes me think frontier have a phobia against narrative even. Its that bad. (okay does lostwinds count? okay fine they can take credit for writing at golden book levels).
Despite the lack of news about development, I think that the next year or so will have new content, albeit not much.
I think we might get a few new ships (perhaps the fabled Panther Clipper), a new SRV or two, a bigger update around on foot thargoid combat and a new suit and a few new guns for it. Maybe a new mechanic too, perhaps. They might even revamp an old mechanic.
But after that, in a years time, the game will be "done". No big updates, no new big content (No VR, No landing on earthlikes, water worlds etc. No ship interiors, no jovian flight, no nothing).The game will however "continue" with weekly/biweekly community goals and a whole new story arc. Double engineered modules from time to time, along with unique decals and paintjobs. The game, in theory could exist in that state for years, as the sandbox is "finished" but the stories are not.
I think we might get a few new ships (perhaps the fabled Panther Clipper), a new SRV or two, a bigger update around on foot thargoid combat and a new suit and a few new guns for it. Maybe a new mechanic too, perhaps. They might even revamp an old mechanic.
But after that, in a years time, the game will be "done". No big updates, no new big content (No VR, No landing on earthlikes, water worlds etc. No ship interiors, no jovian flight, no nothing).The game will however "continue" with weekly/biweekly community goals and a whole new story arc. Double engineered modules from time to time, along with unique decals and paintjobs. The game, in theory could exist in that state for years, as the sandbox is "finished" but the stories are not.
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Well, ED looks like it's in maintenance mode (console dev canceled, the most voted issue on issue tracker -planetary tiling - getting a no-can-do-with-the-amount-of-resources-we-have-at-our-disposal)
However, i do remember the year of 2019 where ED also seemed to be in maintenance mode. CG were rare (mostly replaced with Interstellar Initiatives) and we got no free DLC content.
We did get some stuff from the Interstellar Initiatives like WHN nebula and some other story arcs that had a permanent impact on the galaxy plus Arx and the new pilot experience, so it wasn't an absolutely dry year.
In 2020 we got we only Carriers in June, but except for that it was really dry (not even a CG for the first 8 months of the year) until the new Story Arc started in September 2020
This year we already got Carrier Interiors. Quite curious what they will bring in next, but it looks quite dry at the moment even if that's not exactly true (the story arc started in September 2020 still runs, albeit not that strong as it was in 2021 - but the year is still young ifi may say so)
However, i do remember the year of 2019 where ED also seemed to be in maintenance mode. CG were rare (mostly replaced with Interstellar Initiatives) and we got no free DLC content.
We did get some stuff from the Interstellar Initiatives like WHN nebula and some other story arcs that had a permanent impact on the galaxy plus Arx and the new pilot experience, so it wasn't an absolutely dry year.
In 2020 we got we only Carriers in June, but except for that it was really dry (not even a CG for the first 8 months of the year) until the new Story Arc started in September 2020
This year we already got Carrier Interiors. Quite curious what they will bring in next, but it looks quite dry at the moment even if that's not exactly true (the story arc started in September 2020 still runs, albeit not that strong as it was in 2021 - but the year is still young ifi may say so)
Not a doom thread by any means, more like a serious question.
Many Bugs, some that have existed for Years, some even Game breaking, are not adressed, do not get fixed or get failed fix attempts never to be mentioned again, cost to much ressources to fix.
Console is canceled, many, MANY cosmetics are still broken after a year. Lighting is still broken. Heck not even the normal combat Music in space works correctly after almost a year.
No new Ships, no playable (or rather somewhat playable) Story like with the Guardians or the Goids. The Performance is still down the toilet.
Is Frontier not willing to put enough money into Elite to get it into a good state anymore? Is the Code just to broken to be fixed?
What are your genuine opinions on this matter?
Have a good day
So a DOOM(TM) thread then.
As with any online service it's days are numbered by it's profitability. Once it stops making enough of a profit to justify its existence it'll get canned. When will that be, could be tomorrow, could be in 10 years.
I do kind of agree with the OP, if only a little. FDev has been developing (and, well, fixing) this game for nigh on what, seven years now? By definition it's nearer the end of its life than than the beginning. But I do sort of get the feeling that, as someone said earlier, the best is behind us.
Will we see on foot Thargoid pew-pew? Eh, even if we do, I don't suspect that I'll be involved. What else might one look for past that? Panther Clipper and new ships, I suppose? Alright, fair point but after flying the ones I have for the past five years, I don't see "new ships" as something that's going to save the game. For the past year almost I've been out of the bubble on an expedition and then lately in my own carrier about 10k ly's "west" of the bubble. I've been jumping the carrier and then exploring in a bubble around it, tagging, scanning, and racing around on planetary surfaces...all the while quite enjoying myself. I suspect I will burn through the next 10,000T of tritium left in the hold doing the same, at which point maybe I'll make it back to inhabited space, maybe I won't.
But back on point, yeah, OP....I do agree with you...a little.
Will we see on foot Thargoid pew-pew? Eh, even if we do, I don't suspect that I'll be involved. What else might one look for past that? Panther Clipper and new ships, I suppose? Alright, fair point but after flying the ones I have for the past five years, I don't see "new ships" as something that's going to save the game. For the past year almost I've been out of the bubble on an expedition and then lately in my own carrier about 10k ly's "west" of the bubble. I've been jumping the carrier and then exploring in a bubble around it, tagging, scanning, and racing around on planetary surfaces...all the while quite enjoying myself. I suspect I will burn through the next 10,000T of tritium left in the hold doing the same, at which point maybe I'll make it back to inhabited space, maybe I won't.
But back on point, yeah, OP....I do agree with you...a little.
Personally speaking, and I think there are possibly some youtube vidoes out there that would agree though I can't be bothered to find them so take my word on it, but I think Frontier: FIrst Enounters was the beginning of the end.
Consoles are done, resources pulled.
VR not supported, resources pulled.
Planet tech done, resources pulled.
Odyssey optimization ???? ( resources pulled ??? )
No future roadmap and no talk about anything meaningful
I don’t ever see a chance for a new paid DLC after the Odyssey mess, so the only income for Elite is COSMETICS.
( look at the price of the new retro space suit, very expensive )
Cosmetics sales will probably only pay for the upkeep cost.
It’s clear where this game is going, Frontier is shouting loud and clear ( in thier action’s & silence )
VR not supported, resources pulled.
Planet tech done, resources pulled.
Odyssey optimization ???? ( resources pulled ??? )
No future roadmap and no talk about anything meaningful
I don’t ever see a chance for a new paid DLC after the Odyssey mess, so the only income for Elite is COSMETICS.
( look at the price of the new retro space suit, very expensive )
Cosmetics sales will probably only pay for the upkeep cost.
It’s clear where this game is going, Frontier is shouting loud and clear ( in thier action’s & silence )
Don't mention the war. It causes general discomfort.
ED is still the game in Fdev's portfolio with the largest player base. You could throw that out and gamble that a F1 manager game will be less nerdy/niche than flying spaceships in VR, but I doubt it. I have a hope, that at least someone at Fdev now understand that trying to turn ED into a new version of Fortnite wasn't the greatest idea in the galaxy.
I start to think that dropping the game in it's current state would be the best move from Fdev. I base that on the lack of new things we've seen since Odd launch. To me it indicates messy code, that would be easier to rewrite from scratch. The ED concept seems to have been good enough to keep Fdev going for a decade. Maybe it would be good enough for "round two".
In the meantime I hang around, because nothing beats flying spaceships in VR (not even that)
ED is still the game in Fdev's portfolio with the largest player base. You could throw that out and gamble that a F1 manager game will be less nerdy/niche than flying spaceships in VR, but I doubt it. I have a hope, that at least someone at Fdev now understand that trying to turn ED into a new version of Fortnite wasn't the greatest idea in the galaxy.
I start to think that dropping the game in it's current state would be the best move from Fdev. I base that on the lack of new things we've seen since Odd launch. To me it indicates messy code, that would be easier to rewrite from scratch. The ED concept seems to have been good enough to keep Fdev going for a decade. Maybe it would be good enough for "round two".
In the meantime I hang around, because nothing beats flying spaceships in VR (not even that
)
It's not clear to me, but I do see signs. I myself was the senior developer years ago for a specific industry product that we had to sunset for its time. It was the hardest decision ever, because we were proud of our work, and our many of customers were incredibly loyal. However, unforeseen shifts in the market, along with misunderstanding what our target market actually wanted (kinda like Odyssey, but different), led to an eventual loss of income that could no longer warrant the costs needed to keep the program going. It was not a light decision, it was not an easy decision, and it wasn't even a clear decision until we exhausted all other avenues. But, in the end, it sadly was the only decision. You can't run a business with a product that doesn't turn a profit that covers the work, time, and expenses needed to support that product.