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The problem is that since the new year, there was no comms until after the bad news about consoles and although there has been two updates (which we were told about before christmas), there has been nothing said about future plans for the game apart from a vague nod by Arf about update 12. As much as it's been nice to see the CMs try to engage with the community again, the problem is that the vast majority of people tune in to see if fdev have any future plans concerning the game and they're losing confidence when nothing new has been announced during 2022 and that Odyssey will follow the consoles into maintence mode.
Personally, I'm hoping that fdev have something up their sleeve with the end of the Azimuth Saga (like they did when thargoids were first introduced) but there are a lot of people who worry that elite is now considered a Sunk Cost Fallacy and that fdev will no longer develop for it. It doesn't take much for the impression to be reinforced.
While I appreciate some reactions to the OP may seem extreme here's how it feels from this side (to some at least).
Imagine you're in a failing relationship and have agreed a "date night" every Thursday to try and keep it alive.
One Thursday morning without warning they casually say:
"I can't make this week, I'll let you know in the future when we can do this again."
Then they leave the room.
Queue much screaming, crying, throwing things and Depp-esque slamming of cabinet doors.
Then they stick their head back through the door and add:
"don't lose your blob - I said I'll let you know and I meant it"
It's a live service game that i payed once many years ago and i can still play today (and i do actually play it on more than one account)
It's not subscription based, it's not pay to win.
Yet it's still going*
It's not the case for, lets say The Witcher 3 that i played like 5h and i payed for it about as much money i payed for my Steam account (12 Euros) that has a play time of
*(i dont expect it to run another 20years, but i'll play it as long as i enjoy it or until the servers shut down / whatever comes first)
Don't tell me I'm going to have to talk you down from The Ledge™ as well?
You are correct to point this out. Frontier don't need defending. They have more or less said this themselves numerous times.
As you rightly point out, the issue is concern about the future of the game. And right at this moment, plenty of people are wonder how that even looks.
Frontier can't (or won't):
tell us about account transfers
tell us about development news
tell us when ED streams will return
It's difficult to know what to think that makes any sense other than abandonment at some level.
tell us about account transfers
tell us about development news
tell us when ED streams will return
It's difficult to know what to think that makes any sense other than abandonment at some level.
When an increasing number of stable, sensible people start saying the same / similar things. Then perhaps the whole concept of "The Ledge", is actually a Turkey Fallacy.
No, we'll all employ the Powerplay defence where it's assumed that everything will improve in the end, despite little evidence to support that view.
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Thanks for the info Bruce. How that everyone on the team is OK!
Three of you? Its like Lemmings LedgeWhen an increasing number of stable, sensible people start saying the same / similar things. Then perhaps the whole concept of "The Ledge", is actually a Turkey Fallacy.
Three of you? Its like Lemmings Ledge
Sure it's not a Turkey Ledge?
Joking aside. None of the stuff going on with Elite currently is good news. It's not doom to say that. It's fact.
You're leaving out Elite's micro-transactions.
And they aren't even that micro to begin with.
I don't know any more. Right and wrong have gone out the windowSure it's not a Turkey Ledge?
Nope, Not at The Ledge yet. like I said. I'm hoping that something will happen with the Azimuth Story. However, if galnet, cgs and thargoid incusions disappear as well then people will, quite rightly, assume that the game is in maintenance mode and will leave.
Phew. I'm not used to being The Good Person™.
Now, if FD made that FAS Crossfire paint.....then we'd know ED is safe.
Thanks for the notice, Bruce, and best wishes to you hardworking CMs and devs, please stay healthy during these times of stress and frustration.
It's unfortunate that the Top Brass once again show they are unwilling to learn from past mistakes regarding their management of their live service game Elite Dangerous. A company that's been overstretched for many years, blindly chasing growth at the expense of stability, with its staff and products suffering as a result.
Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
It's unfortunate that the Top Brass once again show they are unwilling to learn from past mistakes regarding their management of their live service game Elite Dangerous. A company that's been overstretched for many years, blindly chasing growth at the expense of stability, with its staff and products suffering as a result.
Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
An extra few words like, "Don't worry folks, Frontier is still committed to the future Elite Dangerous!" would have gone a long way to diffuse at least some of the doom prophecies in this thread. You can never over-communicate when it comes to reassuring your player base regarding the future well-being of your product.
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