The Key Feature Overhaul

I’m starting to warm up to the arx idea, but with the following;

1. drinks cost arx (but are really cheap, like 1)
2, consuming a drink increases some other stat for you that does not help you win, but is desirable somehow… what could that be? (Need you help with this)
3. You should be able to buy drinks for others, this would be a great way to reward friends for help, respect an enemy for their skills in combat…. Etc…
1. Nope. 100 ARX for beer, 500 ARX for liquor. I want buying Lavian Brandy for IMMERSHUN to be a commitment. You buy real drinks for money, right? So this is just adding to the realism. So immersive!

2. Since ARX are a premium currency that cannot be used in any way that provides a gameplay advantage, the logical choice is a drunkenness stat. Each drink you buy temporarily increases screen blur, motion blur, color bloom, and a random X-Y axis jitter on movement and headlook. Drinking more than 100 ARX worth of drink per hour causes your COVAS to lock the controls of your ship to prevent you from flying drunk until you naturally fall below the 100 ARX threshold. Drinking more than 700 ARX worth of beer or 1500 ARX worth of liquor within a single hour causes your character to vomit on the floor of the station, black out, and wake up at the nearest penal colony with fines. So immersive!

3. If points 1 and 2 were implemented as I envision, this would count as a very strange form of PvP.
 
I just don't see the point. If it's that important, especially now we have sitting (for all those thousands of hours you need to sit in a space game), then just go to the pub, and sod the game.

I don't see the point after doing it once, sitting there for a minute, then going back to do what you were doing before.

I don't want to victimise the op as it's obviously his dream, and I won't deny anyone their dreams like yourself - I just don't want the development to suffer for however many months it takes to develop drinking, and months of bugfixes after. As to me, it takes away from development of other more repeatable and 'useful' game elements.

So whilst I have been a bit blunt, I'm not here for an argument with someone who comes along to disagree with us for the sake of it - I'm just stressing my opinion too - I don't see the point, I really don't.

Now we can sit back and wait for people to attack us though Ratty! Shall we choose now to go for labelling them as white knights, karens, sjws, or shall we choose our own label now? Perhaps we should be fanbois, spelt badly because it's fashionable, or white knights again as an irony?

God I sound really bitter in this post - oh well, I guess it'll fit with the labels! So let's run with it! The floor is yours mate!!!1!one!
I think that was your post with the most lines ever - I'm confused! Give me your stuffz now!
 
Why anyone would wish to buy a drink - even as immersion - is beyond me...
when I noticed in GRAND THEFT AUTO if you park your car with the rear end in the water (beach)the exhaust bubbles instead
I mean WOW the detail care and attention put into that game is astounding *any one for tennis golf etc or just plain robbing a bank or flying jets an choppers"
the devil is in the details if ya catch ma drift...……….
all that extra code all that extra debugging all that extra dosh for going that extra mile
moons have great natural bunkers and srv make great carts "tea awwf@noon lol
 
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I just don't see the point. If it's that important, especially now we have sitting (for all those thousands of hours you need to sit in a space game), then just go to the pub, and sod the game.

I don't see the point after doing it once, sitting there for a minute, then going back to do what you were doing before.

I don't want to victimise the op as it's obviously his dream, and I won't deny anyone their dreams like yourself - I just don't want the development to suffer for however many months it takes to develop drinking, and months of bugfixes after. As to me, it takes away from development of other more repeatable and 'useful' game elements.

So whilst I have been a bit blunt, I'm not here for an argument with someone who comes along to disagree with us for the sake of it - I'm just stressing my opinion too - I don't see the point, I really don't.

Now we can sit back and wait for people to attack us though Ratty! Shall we choose now to go for labelling them as white knights, karens, sjws, or shall we choose our own label now? Perhaps we should be fanbois, spelt badly because it's fashionable, or white knights again as an irony?

God I sound really bitter in this post - oh well, I guess it'll fit with the labels! So let's run with it! The floor is yours mate!!!1!one!
I could almost agree, if not for one thing; they had it in Mass Effect, and it worked really well.

I classify this as the sort of content that isn't really worth it in and of itself, but because it's so cheap and easy to implement, and because it has Ripple effects on the rest of the game, it's generally worth doing anyway.

It's like mentioning it's a rainy day in a book; you probably only end up spending one or two sentences talking about the rain, but those two sentences alone color the rest of the chapter, giving it a depth it doesn't have otherwise.

I can totally imagine a group of players going into a station, looking for Missions. Right now, they wander around until they find to the mission they are looking for, and immediately leave. In this potential future, they go in, start looking for Missions, and one person happens to stop at the bar. He gets a drink, then another drink, then another drink, and the next thing you know he's stumbling all over the station while his friends watch and laugh. Soon what was once a five-minute Pit Stop is a 15-minute social moment that is the crowning moment of the day.

And just like talking about the rain, this pleasant experience colors the rest of that day, making the whole gameplay experience better.

It alone won't make the whole game dramatically better, but every little bit of content you add like that slowly improves the game as a whole. Add enough, and you go from a good game to a great game.
 
In the game series Ultima you could buy a drink and the bar tender might tell you something.
If you can't buy a drink why have a bar, or indeed bartender?
"He doesn't like you"

I pop in here now and again hoping something exciting has happened with the game....
 
1. Nope. 100 ARX for beer, 500 ARX for liquor. I want buying Lavian Brandy for IMMERSHUN to be a commitment. You buy real drinks for money, right? So this is just adding to the realism. So immersive!

2. Since ARX are a premium currency that cannot be used in any way that provides a gameplay advantage, the logical choice is a drunkenness stat. Each drink you buy temporarily increases screen blur, motion blur, color bloom, and a random X-Y axis jitter on movement and headlook. Drinking more than 100 ARX worth of drink per hour causes your COVAS to lock the controls of your ship to prevent you from flying drunk until you naturally fall below the 100 ARX threshold. Drinking more than 700 ARX worth of beer or 1500 ARX worth of liquor within a single hour causes your character to vomit on the floor of the station, black out, and wake up at the nearest penal colony with fines. So immersive!

3. If points 1 and 2 were implemented as I envision, this would count as a very strange form of PvP.
LMAO, Very well put. I can't help myself though. This is the best of the best, I suppose!
By far one of the best responses I've read yet.
I love 1 and 2 but 3 needs just a tiny bit more of realism. As what was all said was perfect but after all of the fines and stuff from ones stupidity of wanting such a pointless addition to the game, you also get some kind of an STD perk, kind of like a PSTD from the sub-consciousness of alien women, and when you wake up you're in the pen naked and no ship due to you most likely paid for you STD perk with your ship or gambled it way just for the stupid idea of such a completely pointless addition...
Perfect and easy way to handle PvP without any fighting to.....LOL

I love it. Stamp it and send it off to Frontier...o7
 
Not too long ago, it was all about sitting on stools. Now that we have it, let's face it: Apart from a few failed (bug) screenshots, nobody seems to care anymore. The hype has melted faster than ice cream in the desert. And THOSE are the things that FDev registers, not the immature drivel here on the forum. I really don't know why these people don't go play SC instead. There you get all the fluff you could ever want and beyond (or at least the promise of it). I really don't know what's going on in some people's heads.
The thing is, coding the ability to sit down really shouldn't take very long, so despite the fact it has a low payout, it should still be generally worth the effort.

It's like finding a quarter when you walk down the street. If you find one quarter, it doesn't make much difference. But if every time you walk down that street you find a quarter, pretty soon you start thinking of that street fondly. By contrast, if every time you walk down that street you step on a Lego, pretty soon you start hating that street.
 
My bets are:

1. Cockpit Cats. Definitely. Inside a plant, though. Same as with the Hula Girl.
2. Small Seismic Charges. Hm. Yes, as a CG reward. Maybe.
3. Powerplay. Sure, right after the CQC refresh ;)

Oh, it was about drinks. Sorry, no drinks in VR!

O7,
🙃
 
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You say it should. Reality says it didn't.
Did it? As far as I can tell, it was worth the small amount of effort it required. There was a little bit of positive publicity, and the game is a little bit better now. That's basically exactly what you want to achieve from a little feature like this.

You won't see massive differences because of changes like this, but on the statistical level, you should see slight improvement. Like changing the interest rate by a tenth of a percent and watching the results in the economy.
 
The thing is, coding the ability to sit down really shouldn't take very long, so despite the fact it has a low payout, it should still be generally worth the effort.
I'm sorry to break the bad news to you. But you have NO IDEA what it takes to code crap with your incompetent statement.
Coming from a coder, look at all the things you have to do just to sit in a chair:

Create a 3D model of every size from height to width to angles from every direction of that chair.
All of the models that the 3D model can interact with.
The thousands of frames to create the motions of interactable models.
The lighting and changes with the motion of both models.
The models of everything that comes within or just around that model.
By now we are on around the 500,000th line or close to now.
And now the fun thing that all coders LOVE to do is rinse and repeat all of these things within BILLIONS of coded lines that are already there that incorporate and interact with all of the backdrop settings of different areas just for that one stupid chair.

Really simple isn't it......

PS. Programmers don't like to be called coders.
 
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By now we are on around the 500,000th line or close to now.
And now the fun thing that all coders LOVE to do is rinse and repeat all of these things within BILLIONS of coded lines that are already there that incorporate and interact with all of the backdrop settings of different areas just for that one stupid chair.
I think you are exaggerating somewhat with billions of LoCs for sitting down.. :)
 
Yes it's work and has a cost. Apparently FDev thought it worth implementing, not sure if it was in the pipeline already, or if it was forum and social media outrage that had an effect..

Still I suspect it was in the pipeline as you have to sit down for FC jumps. It's quite funny in that if there are more commanders than chairs on a jumping FC, some sit suspended in the air as there aren't enough chairs.. :)
 
My personal hope is that the key feature overhaul is the awful wheel menus when on foot, and they do something a bit more like... gag... Star Citizen did. Press Q to open your menu, but instead of that wheel with dodgy font choices, you bring your wrist into your field of vision, and get to select things on screen on that.

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I'd rather use my Sirius Corp augmented reality implants. Using a wrist interface is so 21st century.
 
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