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You can't consider the Grizzly bear to be the European brown bear
Nobody mentioned the grizzly bear.

But, yes, Europe has a good selection of animals:

Caribou, polar bear, Arctic fox, greater flamingo, European lynx, Eurasian badger, fallow deer, alpine ibex, moose.
Let's stretch it and say that the American beaver and gray (timber) wolf can represent it as well, since they look like European species.

11 habitat animals. Australia has 6
 
Grizzly bears are closer to European browns than the different beaver species are. Still, American beavers have been introduced in Europe anyway.
 
Nobody mentioned the grizzly bear.

But, yes, Europe has a good selection of animals:

Caribou, polar bear, Arctic fox, greater flamingo, European lynx, Eurasian badger, fallow deer, alpine ibex, moose.
Let's stretch it and say that the American beaver and gray (timber) wolf can represent it as well, since they look like European species.

11 habitat animals. Australia has 6
Caribou, Polar bear, Arctic Fox are from extrem North of the Europe. Great flamingo can't be seeing in only very small spot of Europe. if you think that is representative for most part of Europe you are very wrong! You can't find all this animal in 99% zoos in Europe. Only remains animals in European DLC in the game.
 
Caribou, Polar bear, Arctic Fox are from extrem North of the Europe. Great flamingo can't be seeing in only very small spot of Europe. if you think that is representative for most part of Europe you are very wrong! You can't find all this animal in 99% zoos in Europe. Remains animals in European DLC in the game.
You yourself said that Europe has no representation. Now you're saying that animals found in Europe don't count?
I'm not going to waste my time with people that argue when multiple users here have shown why Europe has satisfying representation, why the oryx is a great choice, and why we are happy with the game.
If you aren't happy with it, then stop playing it. Of you are happy, then don't complain.
As the saying goes: "You get what you get and you don't throw a fit".

Enjoy It as it is; Frontier can't make all our wishes come true. In my case, I can't get the gray fox, but I'm still happy
 
You yourself said that Europe has no representation. Now you're saying that animals found in Europe don't count?
I suggest you build a North American zoo with only caribou, polar bear and polar fox, as endemic species, because you can find them also in NA, right? Why you want another NA species? You don't have enough? Why North Americans desperatelly want Black bear, they have Grizzly bear. Is not a "generic" bear that covers all the bears in NA?!
 
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Caribou, Polar bear, Arctic Fox are from extrem North of the Europe. Great flamingo can't be seeing in only very small spot of Europe. if you think that is representative for most part of Europe you are very wrong! You can't find all this animal in 99% zoos in Europe. Only remains animals in European DLC in the game.
I get your point about "fringe" representation, but Moose, Arctic fox and Reindeer are very much european scandinvian animals, as @KönigDerKaffeebohnen could tell you. I agree we could use more southern european fauna, but it is a much less dire need than other far more underrepresented regions.

So if you we were to analyze;

Main European animals - 8: Moose, Arctic fox, Reindeer, Badger, Fallow deer, Ibex, Lynx, Grey seal

Animals on the fringes of europe - 2: Polar bear, flamingo

Animals which are iffy - 1: Timber wolf (which the game counts)

Practically identical substitutes - 2: HBB/European brown bear, American beaver/European beaver

Anyway you cut it, Europe is very well relresented compared to its biodiversity, and to other regions in the game.
 
I suggest you build a North American zoo with only caribou, polar bear and polar fox, as endemic species, because you can find them also in NA, right? Why you want another NA species? You don't have enough?
The gray fox is my favorite animal, and I've wanted it before the SEA pack.

And, I actually have built a zoo with just those animals plus some from the Asian tundra🤣


But, you're missing the point: the oryx is a well known conservation story. Plus, it is a striking animal. Let's not forget that a lot of players are coming from Zoo Tycoon, so it brings nostalgia. And, it brings more representation to North Africa and the Middle East, places with LESS representation than Europe.

The wisent's story is unknown (I never even heard of a wisent before I joined), it looked similar to an American bison, it's NOT endangered
 
Although to be fair, the moose is very much a North American moose in appearance, not a Eurasian elk. I can’t use the male and get away with it as a European animal because the appearance is quite different.
Never seen either in real life, so I can't really tell, but I remember the Moose was very often argued to be a european animal whem introduced.
 
Pfffiou such a drama. A wisent could have been cool but not in replacement of any of the animals in this pack.
As a European of course I would love more European animals. We still lack some. But most areas are also lacking of representation.
The oryx is simply a perfect choice like all the other 3 animals of this pack
For once there is no low pick. So claiming the oryx is a waste.... no no no.

A wisent why not but if it was a 8 animals pack. But to be fair if we would have had a European clone or something like that then the European mink a wolverine or a marsican bear would have been more appropriate I think
 
Never seen either in real life, so I can't really tell, but I remember the Moose was very often argued to be a european animal whem introduced.
Yes but the Eurasian elk male generally has different, less dramatic antlers. For me the moose is very much a North American animal.
 
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The gray fox is my favorite animal, and I've wanted it before the SEA pack.
Are you writing about this fox? I didn't know them exactly, at my place they are called something completely different. They don't have the word "fox" in their name and are more suggested by the Latin name. But I saw a short film about them once and they said then that they are probably the only canids that walk in trees. They can be an interesting addition to the game.

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At first I thought you were writing about the gray variety of red fox. But it didn't work for me because it's a color, not a species.
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Are you writing about this fox? I didn't know them exactly, at my place they are called something completely different. They don't have the word "fox" in their name and are more suggested by the Latin name. But I saw a short film about them once and they said then that they are probably the only canids that walk in trees. They can be an interesting addition to the game.

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Yes, exactly. Those little guys. They are local in northeast Texas, but in all my 20 years of being up there, I have yet to see one.

I believe the genus is urocyon? What do you call them?
 
The gray fox is my favorite animal, and I've wanted it before the SEA pack.

And, I actually have built a zoo with just those animals plus some from the Asian tundra🤣


But, you're missing the point: the oryx is a well known conservation story. Plus, it is a striking animal. Let's not forget that a lot of players are coming from Zoo Tycoon, so it brings nostalgia. And, it brings more representation to North Africa and the Middle East, places with LESS representation than Europe.

The wisent's story is unknown (I never even heard of a wisent before I joined), it looked similar to an American bison, it's
Wisent is in great danger of extinction because in Europe the great forests that were their natural habitat have disappeared. Even the largest population, living in the forests of Poland, fails to grow in sufficient numbers for the species to escape the danger of extinction. It is very difficult to sustain a population in reserves and this is the only way to protect it. As a comparison, the total number of Wisents represents less than 1% of the current total number of American bison, even if the American bison originates in the Eurasian bison.
 
Wisent is in great danger of extinction because in Europe the great forests that were their natural habitat have disappeared. Even the largest population, living in the forests of Poland, fails to grow in sufficient numbers for the species to escape the danger of extinction. It is very difficult to sustain a population in reserves and this is the only way to protect it. As a comparison, the total number of Wisents represents less than 1% of the current total number of American bison, even if the American bison originates in the Eurasian bison.
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Population increasing. Near threatened.

Can we please move on? You're still too focused on what you want than being happy others got what they wanted. Nobody cares anymore, we keep changing the subject, being nice about it, but c'mon, man, we just wanna have fun, not argue. Let's move on, please
 
Animals on the fringes of europe - flamingo

You can literally see the greater flamingoes in the first photo. We have some 10k couples of greater flamingoes in the same park the Iberian lynx started to recover.


EDIT: Urocyon cinereoargentus, the grey fox, is not quite a fox, but the earliest diverging living canid, and a very unique animal.
 
Wisent is in great danger of extinction because in Europe the great forests that were their natural habitat have disappeared. Even the largest population, living in the forests of Poland, fails to grow in sufficient numbers for the species to escape the danger of extinction. It is very difficult to sustain a population in reserves and this is the only way to protect it. As a comparison, the total number of Wisents represents less than 1% of the current total number of American bison, even if the American bison originates in the Eurasian bison.
Sincerely don't you think there is more endangered than wisent even in Europe and elsewhere?

Oryx is extinct and the topic of à reintroduction program. So it is more than relevant to have it in this pack.
 
Sincerely don't you think there is more endangered than wisent even in Europe?

Oryx is extinct and the topic of à reintroduction program. So it is more than relevant to have it in this pack.
To be fair, the wisent is also the topic of on-going reintroduction programmes and was saved from extinction by captive breeding. Nonetheless, I don’t have a problem with the oryx and think it’s a great addition to the game.
 
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