CQC 1.5 CQC feels way too slow

kossack · Dec 15, 2015

Going from 1.4 it looks like ship dynamics got nerfed quite a bit. Now Condor 1.5 feels more like Eagle 1.4 or even Sidewinder 1.4 ...

My favorite weapon (canons) got nerfed. Feels like by a factor 2x..

Both things (speed of the game and balance between lasers/cannons) were perfectly fine in 1.4
But perhaps it was just for me...

PS: And the duration of power-up.. This is silly - now the first to get power-up keeps it twice as long compared to 1.4...

Opinions?

SushiCW · Dec 16, 2015

Wait, they made the powerups last longer?

BEKTOP 3APEMOB · Dec 16, 2015

Now it's exactly 45 seconds - just counted. Don't know how long it was before

Confirmed - before it was also 45 seconds. Nothing changed.

dutchy2000 · Dec 16, 2015

kossack said:
Going from 1.4 it looks like ship dynamics got nerfed quite a bit. Now Condor 1.5 feels more like Eagle 1.4 or even Sidewinder 1.4 ...

My favorite weapon (canons) got nerfed. Feels like by a factor 2x..

Both things (speed of the game and balance between lasers/cannons) were perfectly fine in 1.4
But perhaps it was just for me...

PS: And the duration of power-up.. This is silly - now the first to get power-up keeps it twice as long compared to 1.4...

Opinions?

The dynamic feel different to me too, I also felt like kinetic weapons took a nerf, but I think its just a feeling nothing actually solid. After adjusting everything went back to normal (aka clubbing baby seals)

Frenotx · Dec 17, 2015

Besides the iFighter being added, I don't think any other changes were made to CQC.

kossack · Dec 19, 2015

Pretty sure there are a lot of changes.
And things continue to change (with every update)

Frenotx said:
Besides the iFighter being added, I don't think any other changes were made to CQC.

SushiCW · Dec 19, 2015

The only other changes I've noticed:

- FA off accel has been weakened a tad, so you can no longer accelerate / brake faster with FA off than FA on. This also applies to the main game.
- Plasma Repeater cooks the ship now, a somewhat puzzling and unnecessary nerf.

h347h · Dec 19, 2015

SushiCW said:
The only other changes I've noticed:

- FA off accel has been weakened a tad, so you can no longer accelerate / brake faster with FA off than FA on. This also applies to the main game.
- Plasma Repeater cooks the ship now, a somewhat puzzling and unnecessary nerf.

Yeah the FAOFF model seems to have been changed a bit. For people who used it extensively like me for CQC this makes me sad. No more Hot Shots flying.

(45 second mark)

[video=youtube_share;V2MHycco7uo]https://youtu.be/V2MHycco7uo[/video]

kossack · Dec 20, 2015

SushiCW said:
The only other changes I've noticed:

- FA off accel has been weakened a tad, so you can no longer accelerate / brake faster with FA off than FA on. This also applies to the main game.
- Plasma Repeater cooks the ship now, a somewhat puzzling and unnecessary nerf.

- Rapid cannons nerfed by 30% (takes more hits to kill)
- Can't boost end-to-end in Condor any more. Even with all "engine power".
- Condor feels more sluggish (almost like it has higher mass)

Frenotx · Dec 20, 2015

SushiCW said:
The only other changes I've noticed:

- FA off accel has been weakened a tad, so you can no longer accelerate / brake faster with FA off than FA on. This also applies to the main game.
- Plasma Repeater cooks the ship now, a somewhat puzzling and unnecessary nerf.

If they did in fact nerf the plasma repeater, it wouldn't be the first time they weakened something that was pretty unappealing to begin with. I recall when the sidewinder's frag cannons were nerfed. Have you ever tried using those things? They're a joke. The range at which you need to attack from to be effective is miniscule, and even there, unless your target is perpendicular to you, most of the pellets will miss.