10 years in and could we have an option for a much shortened cut-scene when the ship goes down to the outfitting depo'.
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10 years in..
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I honestly just take the time to check Galnet, or the Mission Board.
If people don’t understand how it adds immersion to the game, would it not be fair to say that in such cases, ‘it’ does not add any ‘immersion’ for those people?
I find SCO’ing, trying to keep my ship aimed at my destination, keeping an eye on speed and temperature, MUCH more immersive than staring endlessly at a number that slowly drops to 00:07, after which I click one button, wait another 2-3 minutes until 2 sliders are blue, and then press another button.
What you don’t seem to understand is that ‘immersion’ can mean something different for everyone. Remember the whole ‘on foot’ versus ‘ship interior’ discussion? Was either side of the argument more wrong than the other? Or was it just different idea’s of what ‘immersion’ is?
Edit: what you said about SCO drives not being universally praised as a good thing is therefor 100% true.
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Same if you log out and back in.
Yeah, this ^
You can only outfit your ship if it's in the hanger first. If you press the outfitting button before it's in the hanger, you have to wait until it's there first.
Can we get a Yamiks "immurshun" gif?
I'm all for immersion, and i was against faster SC travel, but SCO has been a godsend for the game. The galaxy is a still a big place despite it, and my immersion remains intact. And what is immersion anyway given the context? The lore defines the immersion, since if you want RL immersion, then it would take years to get to the nearest star. So we add SF "magic" and now we can get to another star up to 100 LY away in approx 1 min via jumping to another system. And the "immersion" people are fine with that. So, what difference does it make if FD said the lore is that you can jump 1000 LY, or 10,000 LY, or 100,000 LY?
Immersion has nothing to do with it really, its all fantasy anyway, instead its all about gameplay and setting boundaries. What are the right boundaries? What are the right settings? What makes the most compelling gameplay? We might disagree with that, but "immersion" is a cop out.
At the risk of misunderstanding, I think immersion is a form/subset/expression of engagement. You can be engaged in a theatre show by being immersed in it. You can be engaged with a person by being in deep conversation with them (is that immersion?). You can be engaged with a painting by looking at it and being inspired by it (is that immersion?).
In any case, if for you immersion means having these quasi-realistic travel times because they give you a sense of scale… No one is forcing you to give up your old FSD
Edit: isnt there a version of E: D that you can launch from the launcher that is the ‘old version’ of E: D? Predating Odyssey? Isn’t that exactly what you want and what you describe as not being allowed to exist anymore?
Tell us you don't know what Call of Duty is without telling us?
Personally speaking, I never had a problem with longer supercruise times; I'd go for a manly-peepee or grab a drink during the acceleration stage (the deceleration stage is when you get interdicted, so I'd avoid being AFK for that). It wasn't because of the "space is big" trope either; I just don't care that much. I can always engage my brain and think about something else.
With that said, SCO does reduce that idle time and does make the actual game play much more focussed. It's not like one has to use SCO anyway (and in many ships one positively should not.)
You can still blaze your own trail as you like.
10 years in and people are still complaining about none issues. If entering the hangar is that slow for you then use small ships. They drop down into the hangar the fastest.
It's not a cutscene; you are in control of the game and doing stuff while your ship is being moved into the docking bay (a mechanism that you set in motion.)
It's like calling the landing gear a cutscene because the landing struts take a few seconds to move into place once you start them moving. Or deploying hardpoints. You're still playing the game while the machinery does the operation you requested it to do. Moving is how machines work, and depicting or simulating those machine operations is how sim games work. The game tries to addresses the impatience concern by massively speeding up the operation (docking flashes past in seconds what would take 15 minutes with real mass being moved by the depicted steel structures. Similarly, refueling, outfitting, etc is all sped-up to ultra speed)
There are very few gameplay operations that require the ship to be in the bay. Most station stuff you can do regardless of whether your ship has arrived in the bay yet. Part of a sim game can be optimizing your order of operations to take best advantage of what you can do
It's like calling the landing gear a cutscene because the landing struts take a few seconds to move into place once you start them moving. Or deploying hardpoints. You're still playing the game while the machinery does the operation you requested it to do. Moving is how machines work, and depicting or simulating those machine operations is how sim games work. The game tries to addresses the impatience concern by massively speeding up the operation (docking flashes past in seconds what would take 15 minutes with real mass being moved by the depicted steel structures. Similarly, refueling, outfitting, etc is all sped-up to ultra speed)
There are very few gameplay operations that require the ship to be in the bay. Most station stuff you can do regardless of whether your ship has arrived in the bay yet. Part of a sim game can be optimizing your order of operations to take best advantage of what you can do
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What I usually do is that I instead select the "go down" button, and during the animation, which is non-blocking, I check the commodity market. Why? Because I'm running EDDiscovery on the background, and that sends the latest market data for that station to EDDN, so I'm contributing a bit to have it contain the most recent data. (Of course you don't have to use EDDiscovery for this, as there are multiple other similar programs that do the same. It's just what I'm using.)
After that I select the outfitting option.
After that I select the outfitting option.
Of course it will be a loading screen, but those that like to complain will consider it a cut scene as they are less essential so more annoying and therefore easier to complain about.
It appears to be so. Watching the real-time log of EDDiscovery, it says "sending market data to EDDN" only when I open the market view. I have also corroborated (at least to some extent) this in EDSM (by observing how the market data for a station updates tehre).