1080ti or RTX 2070 or RTX 2080 for VR. Thoughts and Experiences?

Mesolithic

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Hi Folks,

Currently rocking VR through a Rift on a GTX1080 and am considering an GPU upgrade.

Has anyone moved from the 1080 to a 1080ti and if so, was the performance improvement worth it? My 1080 does okay until I am in combat in a Res or inside a station, then things can get wibbly with the graphic effects turned up and AA on.

The alternative to a used 1080ti would be an RTX2070, so am interested is how that card performs in ED VR too.

My Wife has given me permission to get a RTX 2080 if I want, so should I just do that? (Note that I did get her a few beers before asking, lol)

Rest of my specs are:

i5 3570K at 4.08gh
16GB ram
All SSD drives

I know my cpu is a bit old, but I would only consider a complete new system, if a new GPU didn't bring me want I was after first.

I don't do 4k or 120hz stuff.

Thanks

Meso
 

LutzBY

LutzBY
Afaik 2070 super and 2080 isnt much different. I have 2070s and its doing okay with rift s, with pimax 5k its struggling. maybe you better wait couple month for 3 series RTX?
 

Hempstead

Hempstead
Don’t do it, for two reasons.

1. from GTX1080 to RTX2080 founder edition, the difference is very small. Yes. It lets me turn on more ultra features And 1.5 oversampling, etc., but I still get 40fps at station. There are improvements, but definitely none of them get me any wow.

2. nVidia is close to come out with the series of new consumer Ampere-based gfx cards. There is even an article on one of the tech news sites, Tom’s?, titled Why is this a Bad Time to Buy a GFX Card? You will likely regret buying a 2080 when 3080, or something else comes out later this year.
 

hems303

hems303
The RTX3000 series is of course going to be more 'powerful' than current say RTX2080, I now have the RTX2080 having upgraded from a vanilla GTX1080 and hand on heart I can say the performance is quite a bit better!
CMDR Hempstead running a RTX2080 founder edition; says he is only getting 40 Fps in stations and all I can say is there MUST be a bottleneck elsewhere in his system as I'm getting a solid and steady 85 Fps in station with the vanilla RTX2080... and it happily coasts up and down to 120 Fps but what is the point....so I've now locked the Fps at 85 Fps.
RayTracing is yet another matter, when new games support this, and maybe/maybe-not Elite Dangerous Odyssey has this, but whatever; for RayTrace enabling you WILL need an RTX GPU (I personally think that any future iteration of Elite Dangerous be it Odyssey or not; will be absolutely perfect for deploying RayTracing!) o7
 
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znôrt

znôrt
Mesolithic said:
Hi Folks,
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i'm on a 1080ti with the rift and it's perfectly fine. i upgraded it from a 980ti and the improvement was quite noticeable, allowed me to bump settings a bit and still play without hiccups.

ofc more is better but i'd go for the 1080ti if you can find one, specially if money is a concern. unless you need raytracing (?), with rtx the bang-for-buck ratio plummets. rtx will be remembered as the tech released long before it was useful and allowed nvidia to nearly double the prices in the whole sector overnight just because.
 

Mesolithic

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Thanks for the responses.

I could off-set the cost of a used 1080ti through selling my 1080.

But I wasn't aware of the 3 series being expected this year. Now I am wondering if holding off and build a new whole system when the 3 series is released.

Decisions, decisions.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Check your system loads - if you have nothing else available, the task manager's Performance tab is a good enough place to start. I (still... got the tracking ID, stuff is in the mail) got a similar system - 4690K and GTX1080ti, first on Rift, now on Reverb. The 1080ti is cool with the load, rarely goes above 65%, while the CPU is running at >95% most of the time (even OC'ed to 4.7 GHz). The usual websites (no, I didn't remember the links) confirm that it's the CPU throttling here.
So no, I don't think you'll profit from switching from a plain 1080 to a ti.

The new stuff in the mail? Ryzen 7 3800X, B550 mobo and 32 GB of DDR4. All the rest, inluding aio watercooling and PSU, I already upgraded last Christmas. Had a look at the Ryzen XT (and the i7 10700K 3.8 GHz), but didn't like their price/performance.
 

aXeL

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My stock OC'd 1080ti benches within a few % of a stock 2080 and your GTX1080 is close enough to a Ti that the spend isn't worth it IMO. As others are saying, we're too close to the Ampere release for Turing to be worth it for you and, even if you still wanted Turing, waiting for Ampere will bring the prices down.

If you buy a Ti, I promise you that this time next year you'll be right back here asking the question again for the Ti vs < insert Turing or Ampere > and between the loss on your 1080 and the loss on the Ti, the Ti will be a total write off.

That's just how I would personally feel about it though.
 

znôrt

znôrt
aXeL said:
GTX1080 is close enough to a Ti that the spend isn't worth it IMO
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depends. he said used 1080ti. if he finds one for 200-300 bucks, 30% more perf is a pretty sweet deal. it will work well right now for elite and continue to do so well over a year, when prices presumably drop and will still be a little under 1000 bucks for, what, 50%-60% more?

of course next year will be the same, that's regardless of what he already has. this year 1080ti is still a sweet spot.
 

Mesolithic

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Again, thanks for the replies.

I have gone for a used 1080ti which, once I sell my 1080, will cost me about £140.

Once I have if, it I'm still having wibbly bits where I don't want them, I'll bite the bullet and do the MB and CPU upgrade.
 

aXeL

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GJ51 said:
3080Ti

No contest
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I've been reading more on this and on TFLOPs alone, it maybe double my 1080Ti. I'd upgrade if I had the CPU for it but since it would be a whole new build and I'm too cheap to pay, I guess I'll have to wait.
 

althaz

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1080Ti is a decent upgrade over the 1080, but it's not a big one (20-30%). The RTX2070 SUPER is a better upgrade (similar performance in Elite, but ahead in newer games and has ray tracing if you care). Regular RTX2070 avoid like the plague (it's not faster than the GTX1080).

However, it's a bad time to buy a GPU right now. The RTX3080/RTX3070/RTX3090/etc cards are right around the corner. If you've got a decent card already, you should 100% wait another month or so to see what those have to offer, IMO.
 

Craith

Volunteer Moderator
Craith
althaz said:
1080Ti is a decent upgrade over the 1080, but it's not a big one (20-30%). The RTX2070 SUPER is a better upgrade (similar performance in Elite, but ahead in newer games and has ray tracing if you care). Regular RTX2070 avoid like the plague (it's not faster than the GTX1080).

However, it's a bad time to buy a GPU right now. The RTX3080/RTX3070/RTX3090/etc cards are right around the corner. If you've got a decent card already, you should 100% wait another month or so to see what those have to offer, IMO.
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This. I made the upgrade in spring from a 1080 to a 2080 Super and while it was a good upgrade, I still could use more power for VR, and that is on a Vive. My Index is arriving anytime now (ok, in 5+ weeks, according to steam, but at least no longer 8+ weeks), and it will need a bit more power. Still it depends on your available budget - the 2080 Ti was above my limit since I also wanted the Index, and no budget for a 30X0 this year left.
 

Mesolithic

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Update and conclusion:

So I bought a used 1080ti and although you can up a couple of the graphics quality options a bit more (it does help on planets), I would not consider moving from a 1080 to a 1080ti an "upgrade" for VR for ED.

I'll probably put the card I bought and bang it straight back on Ebay, and do a full system upgrade when the 3 series come out.

Thanks you for all your thoughts and input.

Meso
 

Kinky Jalepeno

Kinky Jalepeno
LutzBY said:
Afaik 2070 super and 2080 isnt much different. I have 2070s and its doing okay with rift s, with pimax 5k its struggling. maybe you better wait couple month for 3 series RTX?
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Spot on advice - I have a 1080Ti and a Pimax 5K XR and I have to enable motion smooting to get smooth gameplay at a decent SS rate. I am waiting for the 3 series cards to do my Pimax justice.
 

_bryan

_bryan
I have AMD RX 5700 and it works great. I put every setting on the highest it would go, then I reduced every setting by one. So if the highest it would go is ultra then I put that one on high. If the highest it would go is high then I put it on medium. Last I set the distance slider to the max.

When I put everything on the max setting the game has choppy FPS and a lot of problems for me. When I do the above trick it runs well enough for me to play. I don't see much if any choppy FPS. Maybe sometimes I have some problems but it's more rare.
 
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