Hardware & Technical 144hz msi 670GTX?.

[skipper8472]

Hi all. At the moment I have a 32" TV which is way too big and always has for my eyes. So now I am looking for a new monitor to play PC games. I have narrowed it down to 2 which are.

ASUS VG248QE 144Hz 24" Full HD LED 3D Monitor

BenQ XL2720Z 144Hz 27" Full HD LED Monitor

I am looking towards the asus monitor. My graphic card is a MSI gtx 670 and was wondering if this card is good enough for 144hz at 1080p?. I will be using my TV I have now as a TV and to play console games. Which this TV is going on the wall on a bracket so I can move around so if I wanted I could have also have the monitor and TV as 2 pc screens. . lol

Thanks.

 

[Sir.Tj]

Hi, I've popped your post into the correct forum.

 

[Aleksej]

Sorry but how are GPU requirements related to the refresh rate?

GTX 670 should be enough for 1920x1080 resolution. However, I would be considering 2560x1440 monitors nowadays already.

 

[Kerrash]

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ASUS VG248QE 144Hz 24" Full HD LED 3D Monitor

BenQ XL2720Z 144Hz 27" Full HD LED Monitor
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Hi there,

The refresh rate quoted by your monitor manufacturer has no bearing on the requirements of you GPU.
What is important is the 1080p resolution; your 670GTX should be adequate to on Good quality settings.

 

[norcus]

OP probably wants upwards of 144FPS to gain maximum advantage of the 144Hz refresh

 

[skipper8472]

OP probably wants upwards of 144FPS to gain maximum advantage of the 144Hz refresh

Yes that's it thank you. Would that graphic card be able to do that on any of those monitors with this PC. I no my PC could handle it its just the card.

3770k 3.5 oced to 4ghz
8gb 1600 ram
z77x-ud3h mobo.
850w PSU

 

[Kerrash]

Before I answer, I must clarify that the 144Hz stated by your monitor specification is not some mythical goal you must achieve to use it.
That monitor will function perfectly fine at any playable refresh rate.
In fact most people cannot see any difference beyond 60Hz.

That being said, you would need a much more powerful GPU than a 670GTX, to play the game at a solid 144 frames per second.

 

[skipper8472]

Thanks again for replies.

Just a couple more??. In games and Nvidia control panel what refresh rate above 60hz will be I able to select. Would it be 60hz and 144hz or would there be option in between that?. If I chose 144hz and the card didn't use it all would I still notice a difference in refresh rate from 60hz and would this get rid of slow downs and screen tearing when vsync is on or off?. Thanks again.

 

[Aleksej]

Unfortunately, I think you misunderstand the relation between the refresh rate and FPS. Moreover, GPUs do not use refresh rates at all, they only output video signal at the pre-set refresh rate.

You will be able to select any refresh rate supported by your monitor both in NVidia Control Panel and in the games. Moreover, you should be able to select the refresh rates independently, i.e. you should be able to select one refresh rate in the NVidia control panel and a different refresh rate in games.

VSYNC is used specifically to remove the tearing. If you set a certain refresh rate and your GPU won't be able to provide the corresponding frame rate vsync will reduce the refresh rate using the divisors of the refresh rate that you are using. E.g. if you set it to 100Hz and your GPU can provide that then you will have 100FPS. However, if your GPU is not powerful enough to provide 100FPS then vsync will reduce your frame rate 1:2, 1:3 etc. i.e. you will get 50FPS, 33FPS etc.

So if you are planning to use 144Hz refresh rate then you are going to have 144/72/48 etc. FPS, and there should be no tearing as the frame rate and the refresh rate are going to be synced.

 

[norcus]

Monitors with 144Hz usually have a 120Hz option too. Wouldn't you get the steps 144-120-72-60-48-30? Just curious really.

 

[Ben_BigBen]

Just to throw another one into the mix, I love my AOC 24" 144Mhz G2460FQ - although the stand it comes with is pretty basic so you might want to get the PQU version.

 

[Calico Jack]

I have a GTX 670, IIRC, on max settings at 1080p it gets about 90FPS in space, and 50FPS in stations. Perhaps by setting everything low it would be possible to achieve the desired frame rate, but would it not be better to play with all the bells and whistles turned on?

 

[norcus]

<snip> ... would it not be better to play with all the bells and whistles turned on?

With that attitude and plenty of cash you would have to get new graphics cards every 6 months ... probably 2 or three of them in SLI/Crossfire. Even 2 x GTX980 in SLI today cannot get solid 60+ FPS on a 4k monitor today with the most demanding games at highest settings.

The sweet spot right now is 1440p monitors with GTX970 or equivalent cards I think.

 

[Treble]

I have the 120 Hz version of the Asus monitor with a GTX 670 FTW and I'm getting a steady 120 FPS on highest settings except at stations (90-ish). With Vsync off it goes up to 140-160 depending on what I'm looking at. I'm not sure if the base 670 will do it, though.

You should aim for at least a consistent 100 FPS to get the benefits of a high refresh rate monitor. Don't believe people who say you won't notice a difference. It's so much smoother you can see it even through your mouse pointer moving along the desktop. I have mine next to a Dell 60Hz IPS and you'd have to be blind not to tell the difference.

 

[Aleksej]

Monitors with 144Hz usually have a 120Hz option too. Wouldn't you get the steps 144-120-72-60-48-30? Just curious really.

Nope. Vsync provides the frame rate that it is possible to get dividing refresh rate (1:1, 1:2, 1:3).

I have the 120 Hz version of the Asus monitor with a GTX 670 FTW and I'm getting a steady 120 FPS on highest settings except at stations (90-ish). With Vsync off it goes up to 140-160 depending on what I'm looking at. I'm not sure if the base 670 will do it, though.

You should aim for at least a consistent 100 FPS to get the benefits of a high refresh rate monitor. Don't believe people who say you won't notice a difference. It's so much smoother you can see it even through your mouse pointer moving along the desktop. I have mine next to a Dell 60Hz IPS and you'd have to be blind not to tell the difference.

Sure you can easily see the difference, however, as you cannot compare these 2 monitors as they are totally different. IPS is much slower than TN high refresh rate monitors, that's why you feel the difference. The only way to correctly compare is to set 60Hz refresh rate on a TN monitor then to 100Hz.

 

[Treble]

Sure you can easily see the difference, however, as you cannot compare these 2 monitors as they are totally different. IPS is much slower than TN high refresh rate monitors, that's why you feel the difference. The only way to correctly compare is to set 60Hz refresh rate on a TN monitor then to 100Hz.

Forgot to mention I also have a 60Hz TN screen (Samsung) connected. Still easy to tell the difference.

It's a common thing with 120Hz owners, and especially Lightboost-enabled monitor owners (which the VG278HE is). We can set our monitors to have zero input lag/latency/ghosting/flicker/blur, much like CRT monitors. The difference is night and day no matter what monitor you compare it to, since it's not just seeing; but also feeling with control inputs. Only catch is you need to stay above 100Hz to see and feel the difference.