2 days and i have nothing...

Engineers great... got to level 2 in an hour... Ive just spent 2 bloody days looking for 3 things, so that i can do a single blooming grade 2 bit o crafting on either multicannons or thrusters. 2 of these are data packages 1 you get from outposts or and 1 from savage sites that's apparently common.
two days not a single one of either.
Iver not had time to look for the 3rd, top busy not finding the others where they are supposed to be.
Had enough of this, i am not one to moan about the grind but this is taking the you now what.
It wouldn't be so bad if my once top o the rage cobra is now about as good as a sidewinder stuck in reverse and i need to get thess done so i can survive against the now great NPC's and be able get on with the things i would normally be doing.
And yes before anybody says "it tells you where to get these things" and yes that's what i have been doing for the last 2 days.
 
I've aquired 300 materials and lots of data since 2.1, but have only managed a couple of not so good upgrades. I'm not giving up, but I'm not going to go too far out of my way to get them either. I'm planning head round to the various engineers in a couple of weeks when I've got far more of everything and see just what I can upgrade then.
 
I considered this entire 2.1 release to be the perfect opportunity to get the hell out of town and do some exploring. I'm sitting this entire misfortunate event out here in the black. *If* things get sorted out I'll come back into the bubble, otherwise I'll just continue going around and round the new outer arm for the time being.

Let's just see what the next couple of patches manage to fix before we blow our gaskets.
 
I can see by your avatar that you have gone grey looking for stuff... I ventured all the way out to Maia to grab some gifts for Felicity then went all the way over to her house and she offered me        all so I had a nice cup of tea and left after she told me to sod-off and get more useful stuff that I have not found yet. Beats getting beaten up at a res though.
 
Engineers great... got to level 2 in an hour... Ive just spent 2 bloody days looking for 3 things, so that i can do a single blooming grade 2 bit o crafting on either multicannons or thrusters. 2 of these are data packages 1 you get from outposts or and 1 from savage sites that's apparently common.
two days not a single one of either.
Iver not had time to look for the 3rd, top busy not finding the others where they are supposed to be.
Had enough of this, i am not one to moan about the grind but this is taking the you now what.
It wouldn't be so bad if my once top o the rage cobra is now about as good as a sidewinder stuck in reverse and i need to get thess done so i can survive against the now great NPC's and be able get on with the things i would normally be doing.
And yes before anybody says "it tells you where to get these things" and yes that's what i have been doing for the last 2 days.

First: Excellent user name! Have some +rep! :D

Second: You're not alone, man. I'm frustrated beyond belief. Way too much system-hopping, mission board showing 0/0, 0/0, 0/0, (repeat ad nauseum) only to finally get a courier run that pays out nothing, or a delivery mission that updates to a new destination and then won't allow to be turned in. USSs not spawning for hours on end, only to finally find ONE, and have it turn up empty. *Sigh*, start over.

So far I've gotten nothing useful, have flown thousands of light years, and have spent 6 days going nowhere with this patch. I've used the tooltips, I've used the 3rd party sites that have been kind enough to collect data on where to find materials of interest, I've struggled with the mission board (insert whinge whinge whinge here) for 6 days and I have... nothing. I just wasted a week of game time on this. This is not fun, nor engaging, in my worthless opinion. I've just wasted the better part of a week of game time I have available... and I'm flabbergasted.

Time for me to step away until this (hopefully) gets sorted out.
 
I wonder if some of the data won't be found in... shall we say the less salubrious parts of the galaxy? For instance, I can't for the life of me find irregular emissions data. The Engineers materials spreadhseet says it's found in salvageable wreckage USSes. After four days in high sec, I haven't found one instance of that USS type. Maybe it's time to hit up an anarchy.
 
Gotta say it's lovely out here at 40Kly from the bubble, just picking up ELWs as I go. Just had a system with 5 WWs, all tfcs, around one star. Should be back for 2.3 by which point I would imagine things will be in a right state.
 
Days? Days, and your red faced frustrated already? Instant gratification anyone?

I have sympathy. When you are so focused on a goal, the tasks needed to reach that goal can be irritating. But, we're talking days here. In some systems you get daily, or weekly chances for up-grades. A bit of patience will make it more enjoyable at least. Good luck out there.
 
also, I assume, this is your first real -doing everything- on ED, otherwise you would have ideas and experience enough to find pretty much everything, not at the first attempt tho..

I have 2 FSD level 5, 2 FSD level 4 already, haven't played that much as you, but I have done trading/prospecting/etc before 2.1, including missions to track people or specific cargo even if they didn't work. I want to think this is the reason why I do find everything and you don't..

OP, what are the mats you can't find? I could give you a few clues.
 
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I wonder if some of the data won't be found in... shall we say the less salubrious parts of the galaxy? For instance, I can't for the life of me find irregular emissions data. The Engineers materials spreadhseet says it's found in salvageable wreckage USSes. After four days in high sec, I haven't found one instance of that USS type. Maybe it's time to hit up an anarchy.

The one I found was from encoded emissions style USS, with the wreck of a majestic class interdictor. It had a private data point and the scan revelaed it. For the emissions type things you really need to fit a wake scanner and poke different high wakes to be a bit more efficient. They are the rarest ones to be found in a USS.
 
The one I found was from encoded emissions style USS, with the wreck of a majestic class interdictor. It had a private data point and the scan revelaed it. For the emissions type things you really need to fit a wake scanner and poke different high wakes to be a bit more efficient. They are the rarest ones to be found in a USS.

certain ship's high wake provide certain wake signals, same with certain ships after killing them drop certain components. e.g. every time I killed an Asp explorer it drops a distiller (used in FSD level 4), high wakes from adders I'm refinery systems always dropped wake solutions (used in level 5 FSD) for me, got all of them in a single outpost.
 
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also, I assume, this is your first real -doing everything- on ED, otherwise you would have ideas and experience enough to find pretty much everything, not at the first attempt tho..

I have 2 FSD level 5, 2 FSD level 4 already, haven't played that much as you, but I have done trading/prospecting/etc before 2.1, including missions to track people or specific cargo even if they didn't work. I want to think this is the reason why I do find everything and you don't..

OP, what are the mats you can't find? I could give you a few clues.

ilo, I know this was directed at the OP, but if I can chime in as well (as I do appreciate your reaching out to attempt to help), I'm just one of the posts on this forum that you can find that are using these tools that explicitly state where to find confirmed found mats, but the mats are still simply not spawning. Or the USSs, or the missions, etc. Either this is a case of the most profound bad luck vs way-too-many-hours-in-a-sitting-spent-for-six-days-straight scenario, or something simply isn't right here.
 
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The one I found was from encoded emissions style USS, with the wreck of a majestic class interdictor. It had a private data point and the scan revelaed it. For the emissions type things you really need to fit a wake scanner and poke different high wakes to be a bit more efficient. They are the rarest ones to be found in a USS.

certain ship's high wake provide certain wake signals, same with certain ships after killing them drop certain components. e.g. every time I killed an Asp explorer it drops a distiller (used in FSD level 4), high wakes from adders I'm refinery systems always dropped wake solutions (used in level 5 FSD) for me, got all of them in a single outpost.
Oooohhhhh! I'd totally forgotten that those even existed! LOL.

Now, to the batcave outfitters, Robin!
 
ilo, I know this was directed at the OP, but if I can chime in as well (as I do appreciate your reaching out to attempt to help), I'm just one of the posts on this forum that you can find that are using these tools that explicitly state where to find confirmed found mats, but the mats are still simply not spawning. Or the USSs, or the missions, etc. Either this is a case of the most profound bad luck vs way-too-many-hours-in-a-sitting-spent-for-six-days-straight scenario, or something simply isn't right here.

Sure, I get your point.

This 'guides' or 'tools' are still inaccurate, or sometimes just wrong because nobody has certainty on how items spawn and there is always going to be a degree of randomness.

In my case, for the commodities part, when I was looking for "energy grid assembly" components for the FSD level 4 (the engineering description is says: refinery/industrial close to stafkarl) I spend quite a bit of time trying 'luck' on different systems. Bu then I arrived to the first station in stafkarl and they were offering "modular terminals (for FSD level 3) and "magnetic emitter coils" (FSD level 5) for mission rewards (I noted it). I bought the market information for this system, and it was importing from 2 or 3 systems, I tried all and the last was 40 Cetis. when I went there a station was selling the "energy grid assembly" for the FSD level 4 I was looking for. When I told my friends, one told me "magnetic coils" you can also buy in here, the other told me: "oh, modular terminals are for sale there".. and when I brought my ship back home, the main station I use to camp was offering the three of them on mission rewards... So, yeah, I only I knew about it, I'd have helped my own local faction instead. They don't only spawn in one single place. If I'd had played normally I'd probably finished this part earlier. Anyway, missions are still random, so they might not spawn just those that you desperately need. Just try another station, or try looking for something else, or stick to play the game for 2h and then come back.

For signals, and other data, it is a bit random yet. I'm sure soon we will have a close pattern to understand what to look for. Sure different ships provides different types of signals, but I'm sure some will just don't drop any at all. For data in scans I use to note: where and what, even the local faction of the ship, just in case. Then I stick around or fly and if I see one of these ships I know it will have better chances to give me that signal. Some signals are still so random that hardly we can have a pattern right now.

As I said, Asp Explorer is the ship I looked for when I was in need of the distillers. I tried a few of them, when I saw the Asp dropped it I started focusing on them. It may happend that some Aspx don't drop it in favor of another component. According to the description, distillers are in haulage ships, turns out haulers didn't give me any and I tried a few.

USS now spawn in certain 'points', unlike before. You can't just camp a system and wait for USS to appear. When someone just says "in a USS" that is totally inaccurate. You also need to know if the USS is spawned in a planet (it will say you are close to a planet in your hud), on a shipping lane (hud will show you if you are in one) and also, just in case distance to one of the two bodies of the shipping lane.

Materials as we knew before (prospection) can still be found in planets. It takes too much time to find a correct source of Polonium that I doubt people will be willing to just post here and there. Even in that case, you still need to find metallic meteorites in that location to get the polonium. I think this is the worst part at all, as very rare materials are either hard to find and the information is not so public knowledge. There is polonium in the bubble, that is for sure. There is also the option to do mining on rings to get these materials as well but it is as difficult as with planet surfaces. Materials show up as mission rewards too.

I have the feeling that the tools and descriptions people are giving in the forum are not complete and some of them are misleading, but I'm sure also, most of the people don't really care once they get the materials to come back and feed these tools with the appropriate information, so .. will take a bit more time to have a proper idea on what is what, where, when and how to get specific items yet. My advice would be:

- scan a ship, note the type of ship and what it gives you, also note where.
- scan a wake, note the type of ship and source/dest with the signals you get.
- check the mission board wherever you park, note the mission rewards.
- when you kill a ship, note the type, the role (pirate, smuggler, police) and the drops.
- when you find a USS, note what you get.

I know this is useless for you now, as you are looking after specific materials for an upgrade. But this will be your best and accurate tool you will wind for the next upgrade.
PS: and of course, all this is pure observation, it can be totally inaccurate again in one week
 
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I wonder if some of the data won't be found in... shall we say the less salubrious parts of the galaxy? For instance, I can't for the life of me find irregular emissions data. The Engineers materials spreadhseet says it's found in salvageable wreckage USSes. After four days in high sec, I haven't found one instance of that USS type. Maybe it's time to hit up an anarchy.

Lmao ive just come back from a 29kly trip not going back out there for a while wanna do other things.


also, I assume, this is your first real -doing everything- on ED, otherwise you would have ideas and experience enough to find pretty much everything, not at the first attempt tho..

I have 2 FSD level 5, 2 FSD level 4 already, haven't played that much as you, but I have done trading/prospecting/etc before 2.1, including missions to track people or specific cargo even if they didn't work. I want to think this is the reason why I do find everything and you don't..

OP, what are the mats you can't find? I could give you a few clues.

No this is not the first time doing things in game i am a jack of all trades ( except trading it bores me ) and i have never had trouble trying to get certain things.
I have followed the silly direction in the engineers help bit and this helped not at all. this would not be a problem if i had hours and hours of playtime each and every week, this week is an exception as i have been forced to take a week off of work or lose the holiday days, normally it would be about 6-8 hours a week. not the 15 hours ive put in the last 48 hours.
I am part of the Canonn, i normally am trying to solve some of the mysteries of the game, trouble is i cant do this with the current state of play as i would get killed in secs and interdicted every 2 mins, as i would be loaded up with rares and the like.
So about 12 - 24 months to get ship up to a point of it not being kicked around by NPC's and i can do some science, not going to happen, this is stopping me from doing what i want in the game and therefore killing the game for me.

As for what ones the main one i need loads of is the Specialized Legacy Firmware. and yes i know apparently it everywhere in Ship Salvage/Wreck, Mission Rewards now ive done loads
of missions and got nowt and i did about 35 systems looking for ships to salvage found a lot with lots of stuff in them but no Specialized Legacy Firmware, now the fact that this is very common i would have thought i would have come across at lest 2 or 3 of them by now considering i keep on having to eject stuff ive picked up as i am always running out of room, so its not as if i am not finding stuff just nothing of any use and its taken me way to long.
I am not normally one to moan about grind or time spent/wasted but this is very annoying when you look where your supposed to for what you looking for and not finding it ever gets to you and needs to be changed, i could understand it if it was as rare as the UA's used to be, i spent weeks or so looking for them but we had absolutely no direction of where to find them apart form lil hints in the trailers, but they are not apparently so sort it out FD
 
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Collect materials scans etc as secondary options. Do missions and on the way to the station stop off at USS's, that way if you find anything its a bonus. I have been doing this and have collected a lot of stuff. I haven't specifically gone out to look for things, a watched pot never boils.
 
Collect materials scans etc as secondary options. Do missions and on the way to the station stop off at USS's, that way if you find anything its a bonus. I have been doing this and have collected a lot of stuff. I haven't specifically gone out to look for things, a watched pot never boils.

This is more or less what i'm doing. The usual stuff, just with more attention to resources. When I have enough for for an upgrade, I'll drop by the Engineer.

I have no upgrades so far.:D
 
This is the downside of providing fish for the beta. We never tested the availability of materials.

It's quite possible the material supply algorithms need to be tweaked. Frontier will know who has upgraded to what from their telemetry and can tweak accordingly.
 
This is more or less what i'm doing. The usual stuff, just with more attention to resources. When I have enough for for an upgrade, I'll drop by the Engineer.

I have no upgrades so far.:D

Ouch trouble is i cant do the normal stuff without getting kicked about by NPC's, and not getting anything done and losing all me money on re-buys.
i dont have much money so this is a bit of a hindrance to science.

This is the downside of providing fish for the beta. We never tested the availability of materials.

It's quite possible the material supply algorithms need to be tweaked. Frontier will know who has upgraded to what from their telemetry and can tweak accordingly.

yeah this is the fix i think its not the way its done as such it just needs a lil tinkering with so that things spawn enough.
 
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