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two quiet suns

two quiet suns
I have now accrued 24 weeks game time and I have never had a CMDR combat log on me.
I don't pirate and I don't grief but I love chasing off griefers and though I am not out to kill I am happy to annoy and defend myself in my ubercutter.

I am rarely griefed, rarely interdicted and mostly see people willing to engage and have some fun if they bother to answer coms.

I attend any events, cg's or poi's that come up in Open. I add any CMDR's as friends as I come across who talk or interact and I would suggest 99% of my encounters are friendly.

This seems to run counter experiences I read on the forums and as I am assuming I am on the high end of game time (happy to be corrected), am wondering why my experience is SO different to many others or is this just the vocal minority effect?
 

Mu77ley

Volunteer Moderator
Mu77ley
two quiet suns said:
I have now accrued 24 weeks game time and I have never had a CMDR combat log on me.
I don't pirate and I don't grief but I love chasing off griefers and though I am not out to kill I am happy to annoy and defend myself in my ubercutter.

I am rarely griefed, rarely interdicted and mostly see people willing to engage and have some fun if they bother to answer coms.

I attend any events, cg's or poi's that come up in Open. I add any CMDR's as friends as I come across who talk or interact and I would suggest 99% of my encounters are friendly.

This seems to run counter experiences I read on the forums and as I am assuming I am on the high end of game time (happy to be corrected), am wondering why my experience is SO different to many others or is this just the vocal minority effect?
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I have also never had anyone combat log on me, but then again I don't go around around attacking other players randomly (combat zones only), so maybe the key criteria for being a "victim" of combat logging is being a murder hobo?!
 

Clumsywordsmith

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two quiet suns said:
I have now accrued 24 weeks game time and I have never had a CMDR combat log on me.
I don't pirate and I don't grief but I love chasing off griefers and though I am not out to kill I am happy to annoy and defend myself in my ubercutter.

I am rarely griefed, rarely interdicted and mostly see people willing to engage and have some fun if they bother to answer coms.

I attend any events, cg's or poi's that come up in Open. I add any CMDR's as friends as I come across who talk or interact and I would suggest 99% of my encounters are friendly.

This seems to run counter experiences I read on the forums and as I am assuming I am on the high end of game time (happy to be corrected), am wondering why my experience is SO different to many others or is this just the vocal minority effect?
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Have you ever used an FSD interdictor?
 

Brad Avidro

Brad Avidro
I've been playing since the early BETA, prior to the game release I never heard of any griefing, after release there was an influx of players who had been accustomed to games where you run around shooting anything that moved and really didn't get Elite. I then moved to one of the PVE servers in order to avoid the irritation, however I now play in open all the time and have only come across the occasional player who is out to spoil play for others by clowning around. Usually they are in groups and spend their time near where there is a lot of activity and try their best to annoy other players. I find they are easy to avoid so don't pay much attention to them.
 

hems303

hems303
Brad Avidro said:
I've been playing since the early BETA, prior to the game release I never heard of any griefing, after release there was an influx of players who had been accustomed to games where you run around shooting anything that moved and really didn't get Elite. I then moved to one of the PVE servers in order to avoid the irritation, however I now play in open all the time and have only come across the occasional player who is out to spoil play for others by clowning around. Usually they are in groups and spend their time near where there is a lot of activity and try their best to annoy other players. I find they are easy to avoid so don't pay much attention to them.
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^This^

OP .. I have been playing 22 Weeks 1 Day 10 Hours and 52 Minutes, as above; first in Open then for me the original incarnation of Mobius, then latterly back in Open.
As OP rarely griefed and then when interdicted I've usually managed to come out mostly unscathed. Never seen a combat log ever. Still use Mobius when in a fractious area and needing guaranteed peace and quiet to achieve a personal goal.
Must admit it is a bit of a "mersion breaker" to switch modes when I do, and I know it's just based on my "apprehension" of coming across an idiot and certainly not an evidence based decision on my part...go figure!:eek:

In support PVE groups of such as Mobius, I do still enjoy interacting with the many Commanders I meet in the Mobius instances, knowing that all interactions are going to be "friendly" and positive, regardless of Power Play affiliation or career path...it's just nice to "socially" interact and even swap propaganda with "opponents" on the fly, other commanders are willing to talk rather than flee or combat log in fear that you want to do more than just chat. But there again, Open Play should be like that....
 
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Jukelo

Jukelo
I haven't experienced a single combat log in a year and a half

That is since I have stopped even trying to pirate other players as more than half my encounters resulted in combat logs, menu logs or empty instances.

These days I wouldn't even bother, since without even taking Clogs into account any target worth pirating would be uber-engineered, causing the time-to-disable to skyrocket way past any realistic timeframe (that is, beyond the 15s window before a menu log or high-wake).
 
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Mangal Oemie

Mangal Oemie
One confirmed combat log in 2 years of playing (some 25+ weeks of game time). I've seen squares disappear from SC, which could be mode switch or just drop to normal space or hyper jumps (something I am sure Elite pilots in bigger ships see often), but only one actual in-battle combat log.

0% drives, 0% FSD..... and then just disappeared...
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
two quiet suns said:
I have now accrued 24 weeks game time and I have never had a CMDR combat log on me.
I don't pirate and I don't grief but I love chasing off griefers and though I am not out to kill I am happy to annoy and defend myself in my ubercutter.

I am rarely griefed, rarely interdicted and mostly see people willing to engage and have some fun if they bother to answer coms.

I attend any events, cg's or poi's that come up in Open. I add any CMDR's as friends as I come across who talk or interact and I would suggest 99% of my encounters are friendly.

This seems to run counter experiences I read on the forums and as I am assuming I am on the high end of game time (happy to be corrected), am wondering why my experience is SO different to many others or is this just the vocal minority effect?
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Yes. Every combat logging post will claim it to be a "major problem" that "everybody has", but don't forget that post is an experience of one person out of many hundred thousand. :)
 

Morbad

Morbad
Mu77ley said:
I have also never had anyone combat log on me, but then again I don't go around around attacking other players randomly (combat zones only), so maybe the key criteria for being a "victim" of combat logging is being a murder hobo?!
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Most of the combat logs I've seen have been in CZs and nearly all of the rest have been from people who have attacked my CMDR first, because my CMDR very rarely initiates hostilities.

The key criteria to being a direct victim of combat logging is to fight a combat logger.

Everyone is an indirect victim, because CMDR's of all stripes, united by one single facet (being controlled by a cheater), avoid losing assets they should have lost and then use those assets to continue playing, and thus changing, the game.
 

Martian Successor

Martian Successor
two quiet suns said:
I have now accrued 24 weeks game time and I have never had a CMDR combat log on me.
I don't pirate and I don't grief but I love chasing off griefers and though I am not out to kill I am happy to annoy and defend myself in my ubercutter.

I am rarely griefed, rarely interdicted and mostly see people willing to engage and have some fun if they bother to answer coms.

I attend any events, cg's or poi's that come up in Open. I add any CMDR's as friends as I come across who talk or interact and I would suggest 99% of my encounters are friendly.

This seems to run counter experiences I read on the forums and as I am assuming I am on the high end of game time (happy to be corrected), am wondering why my experience is SO different to many others or is this just the vocal minority effect?
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To put it simply: for every single issue in the game there are always some players who never encounter that specific issue. My question is: should that make the issue any less relevant to those that do encounter it?
 

Dirtbird

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Martian Successor said:
To put it simply: for every single issue in the game there are always some players who never encounter that specific issue. My question is: should that make the issue any less relevant to those that do encounter it?
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No, not at all. Those issues must be real in some form or other and should be looked at, or at least be able to be explained.

However he is highlighting a completely different issue that is similar to my own - most CMDRs I encounter are friendly, or silent.

When I first read these forums and read about griefers and gankers and other such things, I went in search of them to see what it was all about. Didn't manage to find a single ganker until last month at a CG. I've been playing for just over a year now, averaging perhaps 10 hours a week. I've hung around the starter systems, even flown around in a Sidewinder to see if anyone attempts to teach me the lessons of life in Elite. At CGs, I might see about six CMDRs, five of which are AFK sitting on a landing pad. The most I ever saw in a single instance at a CG was twelve, all friendly. At the first round of the burning stations, I turned up several times in my Rescue Vulture only to find it was just me there, shipping ten passengers at a time, waiting to see if there was anyone causing "trouble" that I could vulch.

Perhaps it's a geographical / internet latency thing.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Interesting read. Throughout the past year I never had a single Cmdr CLog on me, never saw the raining skimmers and was never scan rammed. Because I was out exploring.

Baddies CLog too ;)
 
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Brad Avidro

Brad Avidro
Got Grief'd last night, in my type 10, doing some merits for Aisling Duval, dropped into the system was immediately interdicted by a commander in a FAS, who immediately started pounding on me with everything he had. Didn't ask for any cargo or even communicate in any way other than trying to blow the hell out me. My ship isn't engineered in so my shields depleted quickly but I managed to jump back into super-cruise. Where I was very quickly interdicted again by his buddy who was waiting in super-cruise, I decided to turn and fight but as the other one dropped in so I had two FAS' throwing everything they had at me I soon got the 'eject, eject' then boom! :mad:
 

ryan_m

Banned
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Brad Avidro said:
Got Grief'd last night, in my type 10, doing some merits for Aisling Duval, dropped into the system was immediately interdicted by a commander in a FAS, who immediately started pounding on me with everything he had. Didn't ask for any cargo or even communicate in any way other than trying to blow the hell out me. My ship isn't engineered in so my shields depleted quickly but I managed to jump back into super-cruise. Where I was very quickly interdicted again by his buddy who was waiting in super-cruise, I decided to turn and fight but as the other one dropped in so I had two FAS' throwing everything they had at me I soon got the 'eject, eject' then boom! :mad:
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You didn't get griefed, you got killed by Fed powerplayers while doing powerplay for an opposing faction. That is gameplay that is SUPPOSED TO OCCUR and will be encouraged by the new C&P system.
 
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