Hardware & Technical 2700X + Asus Rog 470X board + Nvidia Asus 2080 TI

[Comrade Napoleon]

Well, well, well,
coming from a 2600 K Intel build with a 780X Nvidia card, this was like being reborn.
I am still using three monitors (1080) and everything was a breeze. The computer did actually spin up a little, during the test flight.
Asus Rog Strix 470x - Gmaing board + AMD 2700X CPU + Asus 280 TI 11 GB graphics + Samsung EVO 870 500GB NVME hard-disk.
This beast is fast, very fast . And it is very responsive. Playing the the training missions in ultra does not make either PCU or GPU to ramp up, it is virtually silent. [big grin]
I have tried the CPU in In Design, Photoshop, Revit and Autocad and the combination is fantastic compared to my previous set up, which was capable but lagging.
If you use your gaming rig for other stuff than gaming , have a look at AMD their new line up is not bad, and the included cooler is a steal.
+ AMD gurantees they will stick to the AM4 pltform, no more Intel motherboard madness.
At least I am happy.
Feel free to comment, I do no play Elite that much anymore (Was in 2014) but still do, and I do follow the Forums (If I am not banned because of foul language)
Conclusion: Amd CPU great! Nvidia 2000 series: Great if you have less than GTX 1080.
It is my opinion only.

Cheers Cmdr's

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Yeah, I am saving up for a new rig and I'm going to go for AMD this time too.

 

[Chris Simon]

Agreed. The AM4 is a blessing if you're a guy who doesn't have money to replace the entire rig every two years.
The possibility to buy a good motherboard, knowing that you can use it for upgrades for at least two next CPU gens is awesome.

And with a good graphics card, it doesn't matter that Ryzen is a couple of percent behind Intel. Honestly, the fact that your game runs as 120FPS instead of 130FPS doesn't matter at all.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Agreed. The AM4 is a blessing if you're a guy who doesn't have money to replace the entire rig every two years.
The possibility to buy a good motherboard, knowing that you can use it for upgrades for at least two next CPU gens is awesome.

And with a good graphics card, it doesn't matter that Ryzen is a couple of percent behind Intel. Honestly, the fact that your game runs as 120FPS instead of 130FPS doesn't matter at all.

You have an AMD GPU, right?

How's it fare? Would I be correct in thinking AMD is ever-so slightly cheaper here too? Specifically for building a system with 60fps 1080p gaming in mind.

 

[Patrick_68000]

AMD is back in a golden age.

As at the time of the Athlon 64 or older, the K6 II, III ...

I have always been a user of AMD (DX4 100, 5X86 133, K6 233 and Athlon 64).

But 4 years ago I bought a 4th generation Intel I7.

Maybe one day I will come back to my first love ?

 

[Jon flint]

I thought they were only supporting AM4 til 2020 (same as intel)?

But otheriwse, nice rig. I'm a little torn on the value of the 2080ti, I picked up the evga xc ultra version, but i get better performance out of my 1080ti's in 90% of games and benchmarks, but its always nice to have the latest tech, even if it won't really shine until RTX games start being launched.

+I started a benchmark thread for 3dmark scores.. get benchmarking that beast of a rig and post some results

 

[GJ51]

I'm getting closer to building a new rig, but still waiting to get a better handle on both CPU and GPU options.

I was firmly in the Intel camp for a long time due to the hot running chips AMD produced in the past, but the current series seem much better and the additional PCIe lanes seems to make the decision much more compelling. Intel will have an official desktop event tomorrow. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13447/intel-to-hold-pc-desktop-event-on-monday-october-8th

I'm still going to give GPU pricing some time to settle out to see if there's enough $ difference to warrant a 2080 Ti over a 1080 Ti

A Z390 with a Gen 9 CPU is still a possibility, but the AMD feels like more bang for the buck with less confusion.

Soon

 

[Patrick_68000]

I'm getting closer to building a new rig, but still waiting to get a better handle on both CPU and GPU options.

I was firmly in the Intel camp for a long time due to the hot running chips AMD produced in the past, but the current series seem much better and the additional PCIe lanes seems to make the decision much more compelling. Intel will have an official desktop event tomorrow. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13447/intel-to-hold-pc-desktop-event-on-monday-october-8th

I'm still going to give GPU pricing some time to settle out to see if there's enough $ difference to warrant a 2080 Ti over a 1080 Ti

A Z390 with a Gen 9 CPU is still a possibility, but the AMD feels like more bang for the buck with less confusion.

Soon

Even if I do not buy for the moment, it will be interesting to read the tests on the 9th generation

 

[Broon]

I am also planning an AMD build. As I am slowly upgrading pieces to that end at the moment it is good to know that the AM4 slot will be a thing for quite a while. That could be helpful for say grabbing a CPU now and a board later down the line, or vice versa.

If Win 7 wasn't going under the axe in the near future I would try to speed up my parts acquisition process but I just can't quite stomach Win 10 yet. I know I will have to sooner or later, just shooting for later.

 

[Broon]

You have an AMD GPU, right?

How's it fare? Would I be correct in thinking AMD is ever-so slightly cheaper here too? Specifically for building a system with 60fps 1080p gaming in mind.

I ran an RX 480 for quite a while and it did 60fps 1080p gaming quite well. It ran a little hotter than Nvidia cards do though.

So yes, an RX 500 series or a Vega card would do you well on a budget.

 

[GJ51]

I am also planning an AMD build. As I am slowly upgrading pieces to that end at the moment it is good to know that the AM4 slot will be a thing for quite a while. That could be helpful for say grabbing a CPU now and a board later down the line, or vice versa.

If Win 7 wasn't going under the axe in the near future I would try to speed up my parts acquisition process but I just can't quite stomach Win 10 yet. I know I will have to sooner or later, just shooting for later.

Next build I'm going to use Win 8.1 Pro and milk it as long as I can. I'm pretty sure it can be customized to look and feel like Win 7 but have longer to go to EOL.

Inevitably I'll probably build a Linux machine for everything except Windows gaming. I'm already out of facebook, twitter and all the other similar adware. Once on Linux I'll dump Chrome as well. I already have a private email server.

Very sad how the lemmings are so easily convinced to surrender their privacy.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I ran an RX 480 for quite a while and it did 60fps 1080p gaming quite well. It ran a little hotter than Nvidia cards do though.

So yes, an RX 500 series or a Vega card would do you well on a budget.

Nice, thanks.

 

[Chris Simon]

You have an AMD GPU, right?

How's it fare? Would I be correct in thinking AMD is ever-so slightly cheaper here too? Specifically for building a system with 60fps 1080p gaming in mind.

Yes, I have a Ryzen 5 and I can't complain. I never had a problem.
Ryzens are generally a little bit slower than new Intel CPUs, but as the games learn using more threads, this disadvantage disappears. Plus they are a LOT cheaper.
I can't with clean conscience recommend an Intel CPU, right now. They are way too overpriced and have rapidly aging architecture, too. Plus, like I mentioned, all Ryzens, current and future use AM4 socket while Intels have a new socket with every generation, which is just ridiculous.

edit: ah. A GPU. Eyes. Read, dammit.
Yeah, I've got the RX 580. It's an equivalent of the GTX 1060 I had before (btw. If anybody wants to buy a GTX 1060, it's gathering dust, here) so I'm happy with that. I only have a 1080p monitor and the card handles all games on Ultra in this resolution without a problem. And yes, it was quite cheap.

 

[Comrade Napoleon]

Buy Win 10, its cheap 20 Euro Max.
Apply Classic Shell. Google it. And you are set to go, with out App nonsense.
Windows 10 is good very good. Ans that is from a OSX user (Mojave).
Windows 10 is close to OSX experience.


Cheers Cmdr's

 

[Comrade Napoleon]

Anyone going the AMD 2000X series path LOOK OUT:

The 2000x series do not have onboard graphics, so you will need either a brand new Graphics card or a really, really old one.
I ran into a problem trying to install my 780 xcard, it would not, but an ancient (2005) Radeon worked and the Bios came on screen and installation could proceed.
The 2080 TI just installed out of the box.
The CPU is cool, the boxed cooler is a steal and the rig is very silent, I have not yet been able to stress it. Elite does certainly not stress it, neither does Revit nor Photoshop, both would make my previous Intel 2600 K spin up.
For pure gaming Intel is still the path, but if you do other CPU intensive work, the AMD is very, very good.
And then there is the price.
And support for older generation motherboards. (Bios upgrade needed)

A minus is that the 2700 X, to fully shine, needs the best RAM possible (3200 mHz) it just loves it
Thinking of getting another 16 GB , but then I need not to eat in the whole of October [big grin]

Cheers Cmdr's

 

[Patrick_68000]

Thinking of getting another 16 GB , but then I need not to eat in the whole of October [big grin]

Your avatar indicates that you have of the reserve to hold

 

[GJ51]

Good read on CPU tests

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...enchmarks-are-misleading-period/#530681f4e4ea

 

[Shadowdancer]

You have an AMD GPU, right?

How's it fare?

RX 480 here. It's fine unless you intend to run software using OpenGL, it seems like nvidia are the only ones still bothering with that decrepit mess. So if you want to run X-Plane or other software that's obviously never tested on non-nvidia hardware, the Red fraction goes out the window.

 

[xondk]

Well, well, well,
coming from a 2600 K Intel build with a 780X Nvidia card, this was like being reborn.
I am still using three monitors (1080) and everything was a breeze. The computer did actually spin up a little, during the test flight.
Asus Rog Strix 470x - Gmaing board + AMD 2700X CPU + Asus 280 TI 11 GB graphics + Samsung EVO 870 500GB NVME hard-disk.
This beast is fast, very fast . And it is very responsive. Playing the the training missions in ultra does not make either PCU or GPU to ramp up, it is virtually silent. [big grin]
I have tried the CPU in In Design, Photoshop, Revit and Autocad and the combination is fantastic compared to my previous set up, which was capable but lagging.
If you use your gaming rig for other stuff than gaming , have a look at AMD their new line up is not bad, and the included cooler is a steal.
+ AMD gurantees they will stick to the AM4 pltform, no more Intel motherboard madness.
At least I am happy.
Feel free to comment, I do no play Elite that much anymore (Was in 2014) but still do, and I do follow the Forums (If I am not banned because of foul language)
Conclusion: Amd CPU great! Nvidia 2000 series: Great if you have less than GTX 1080.
It is my opinion only.

Cheers Cmdr's

Nice setup, though honestly, I couldn't get myself to get a 2000 series, it is the 1st gen of a new type of graphic card, and add the pricing to that, while I can afford it, it just is......too much for too little, even sitting on a 970 gtx and wanting to upgrade. So i'm likely going to wait for next years revision of 2000 series, or price drop.

 

[KptHowdY]

My rig

Ryzen 7 2700x, Asus crosshair 7, 2x8gb g.skill, 2x gtx 1070ti,1tb samsung m.2, dell alienware 32" ultrawide 2k, and Tuesday my htc vive will be here.....this thing blisters! Boots cold in like 15 seconds and runs anything I throw at it good enough for me...sure would be nice if more devs supported SLI though specially for VR but hey as long as it gets the job done, I'm happy.