49 Arietis - Gaiman Dock technical issues?

[777Driver]

Can someone point me to a list of faulty stations due to UA's. Just stopped off at a nice Anarchy system called '49 Arietis' whilst enroute to Obsidian Orbital, the starports services are offline and the shipyard is empty - The surface ports are fine.

Not sure if this is a bug or not.

Thanks

 

[DNA-Decay]

wasn't the full UA affected station list on Galnet?

also is that curvature part of how Oculous renders?

 

[lysan]

Hm, I was there not long ago today, didn't see that?

 

[Jmanis]

Latest galnet list: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/5714fcbb9657ba381738acbb

Sorry about fozard dock

 

[777Driver]

wasn't the full UA affected station list on Galnet?

also is that curvature part of how Oculous renders?

I just scrolled through the galnet feeds ingame, couldn't find the entry that listed the stations. The curve was added for VR a few patches back, not quite sure why the devs put it in, it's like a big 60" Curved LED, I prefered when it was flat.

edit - Thanks Jmanis. Haven't paid much attention to the whole thing - Can I head to the barnacle sites and truck some Meta alloys back to this system? Or does it require hundreds/thousands to get a station back online? This system seems perfect for me to setup a mining base, plus a lot of the moons here have some amazing terrain, would like to base an Imperial Eagle out here.

 

[Jmanis]

I just scrolled through the galnet feeds ingame, couldn't find the entry that listed the stations. Yeah the curve was added for VR a few patches back.

edit - Thanks Jmanis. Haven't paid much attention to the whole thing - Can I head to the barnacle sites and truck some Meta alloys back to this system? Or does it require hundreds/thousands to get a station back online? This system seems perfect for me to setup a mining base, plus a lot of the moons here have some amazing terrain, would like to base an Imperial Eagle out here.

Canonn had some success with repairing bond hub. I don't know what quantities are needed though. I shipped 300 ua's to a station i kept secret and got no result, and shipped 100 to another secret station and had it fail a month later : that was fozard dock.

'Officially' yes, ship ma's and you can repair the station, that's why the commodities market is now available in stations with suspended services; this was not originally the case.

'In practice' i don't know for 100% what quantities ate needed, or if the repair mechanism is reliable. Personally, i don't ship MA's

 

[CMDR Corlas]

I believe people have discovered that in repairing stations, number of tranactions matters more than number of meta-alloys sold. So if you ship some, sell them 1 ton at a time, not all at once.

 

[fennster]

I just scrolled through the galnet feeds ingame, couldn't find the entry that listed the stations. The curve was added for VR a few patches back, not quite sure why the devs put it in, it's like a big 60" Curved LED, I prefered when it was flat.

edit - Thanks Jmanis. Haven't paid much attention to the whole thing - Can I head to the barnacle sites and truck some Meta alloys back to this system? Or does it require hundreds/thousands to get a station back online? This system seems perfect for me to setup a mining base, plus a lot of the moons here have some amazing terrain, would like to base an Imperial Eagle out here.

AFAIK the healing stations with meta-alloys is not automated, so if a group of CMDRs tried their hardest and FDev don't notice and flick the switch, nothing will happen. A campaign to achieve this, through the forums and get noticed, would be the best way to facilitate it.

 

[Jmanis]

AFAIK the healing stations with meta-alloys is not automated, so if a group of CMDRs tried their hardest and FDev don't notice and flick the switch, nothing will happen. A campaign to achieve this, through the forums and get noticed, would be the best way to facilitate it.

Automated, probably no. Monitored, definitely yes.

As CMDR Corlas alludes, it's become apparent through bgs research that a lot of things are affected per transaction, rather than any volume.

I sold uas 1t at a time to fozard and kept it secret. Literally nobody knew about it, but it failed still. A month later, but it failed.

Walker survey, which never failed, got its uas in batches of 15-20 at a time, which is only at-most 30-odd transactions. I even publicly announced these shipments to walker survey and still nothing.

I did these experiments to work out more about the mechanism, whether it was just a written popularity contest viewed by fd on the forums, or sales monitoring. MB (paraphrasing) said in one of the ua threads that they can monitor sales of items.

Tl:dr a 'forum campaign' is not necessary.
Ps. Feel free not to take my word at face value, not here to preach gospel, so to speak, buy I've been toying worth this stuff for a loooong time

 

[fennster]

Automated, probably no. Monitored, definitely yes.

As CMDR Corlas alludes, it's become apparent through bgs research that a lot of things are affected per transaction, rather than any volume.

I sold uas 1t at a time to fozard and kept it secret. Literally nobody knew about it, but it failed still. A month later, but it failed.

Walker survey, which never failed, got its uas in batches of 15-20 at a time, which is only at-most 30-odd transactions. I even publicly announced these shipments to walker survey and still nothing.

I did these experiments to work out more about the mechanism, whether it was just a written popularity contest viewed by fd on the forums, or sales monitoring. MB (paraphrasing) said in one of the ua threads that they can monitor sales of items.

Tl:dr a 'forum campaign' is not necessary.
Ps. Feel free not to take my word at face value, not here to preach gospel, so to speak, buy I've been toying worth this stuff for a loooong time

Monitored, without a doubt.

My theory is all UA and meta alloy activities are monitored, leading up to the beginning of the outages, Fd would look at the statistics of UA's sold. Those would become the targeted stations. Unbeknown to us. Since we are still unfolding the cure, it is probably still a case of a decision on the developer side to decide on the outcome of an attempt to repair a station.

My point being it's the developers playing the game according to the player's actions, not the other way around.

 

[goemon]

Canonn had some success with repairing bond hub. I don't know what quantities are needed though.

the numbers i heard of from canonn members have been a few thousand - and this was only the tracked effort - many cmdrs will have delivered without tracking.

i would recommend rally some groups to this cause (and i personally probably won't be part of, because i don't mode switch, and there is no way to get a serious number of MAs without it).

 

[Jmanis]

the numbers i heard of from canonn members have been a few thousand - and this was only the tracked effort - many cmdrs will have delivered without tracking.

i would recommend rally some groups to this cause (and i personally probably won't be part of, because i don't mode switch, and there is no way to get a serious number of MAs without it).

Would be interesting to know how many transactions that was too.

My point being it's the developers playing the game according to the player's actions, not the other way around.

Agreed

 

[Han_Zen]

Gaiman Dock was one of the first stations to go.
AlexVII reported delivering 180t MA there today.
I hope it helps.
And there will be shadow deliveries to get there, once it is fixed. ;-)

 

[777Driver]

Gaiman Dock was one of the first stations to go.
AlexVII reported delivering 180t MA there today.
I hope it helps.
And there will be shadow deliveries to get there, once it is fixed. ;-)

Saw some nice deliveries on the surface ports, both of them had haulage missions for a few million each. Let's hope the orbital station will be up and running sooner than later.

 

[Han_Zen]

Saw some nice deliveries on the surface ports, both of them had haulage missions for a few million each. Let's hope the orbital station will be up and running sooner than later.

Both Gaiman Dock (when working) and Dirichlet Port have Black markets as well. It's a nice system.

 

[Henri]

Gaiman Dock?!?!!?!?
That's only one letter shy of epicness!...sorry muhahaha could not resist
are you baiting me?

 

[Patau82]

Estimates are 1000-5000t of meta alloys were delivered to Bond Hub.
We had about 1000t announced but should be higher then that as group is large and was promoted in and out of game many cmdrs wouldn't have posted their contribution.
A few factors may effect the number of MA's needed to cure a station. Bond Hub was only infected and wasn't fully shut down, its an outpost, system population might make a difference? (9 million in Varati) and the most recent sales were done 1t at time as it recently has become apparent that a lot of small transactions has a larger impact on BGS then single large transactions.

 

[Patau82]

We pushed the sale of MA's to Bond Hub for the first few days after the Barnacles were found until Obsidian Orbital was cured and MA CG started.
The CG completed so we assumed that results would be made available and a cure produced from 150k tonnes of MA's painfully gathered by cmdrs so didn't really push sale anymore.
Unfortunately no info on cure was released by Palin and OO tech team as promised and the large stockpile of MA's vanish reportedly sold on to black-market!
We went back to pushing sales of MA's to bond hub again as it was pretty clear from several galnet articles that selling MA's at affected station was the only way to fix them