General / Off-Topic 4Chan is the most influential website ever ... change my mind.

Alien

Alien
I'm not a fan of 4Chan, I have only visited the site once, out of curiosity.
But hearing the list of things 4Chan is credited with, I don't think I can name any other site that has had as much of an impact on the world, as 4Chan.

  • Flat Earth
  • QAnon
  • Anonymous
  • Lolcats
  • Rickroll

All came from 4Chan, and more I haven't listed here.
4Chan is THE most influential website ever. Change my mind.
 
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Alien

Alien
Manfred Belheim said:
Not sure in what way you think Flat Earth theories originated there.
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I'm not sure in what way you think they didn't.
The idea that everyone in the middle ages thought the Earth was flat, is a fallacy.


The modern conspiracy theory that the Earth is flat, that was a joke on 4Chan which people took seriously.
On second thoughts, I don't actually care.
 
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Morbad

Morbad
Alien said:
I'm not sure in what way you think they didn't.
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All the representations depicting a flat Earth that long predate the existence of 4Chan, or the internet.

Alien said:
The idea that everyone in the middle ages thought the Earth was flat, is a fallacy.
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No one has claimed otherwise and I assume that even Manfred is aware that accurate approximations of Earth's shape and size have been known to exist for more than 2300 years. However, cosmological models that seriously depicted Earth as flat existed long before, and persisted long after, the sphericity of Earth became well-established fact.

Cosmas Indicopleustes' assertions in his Christian Topography, are an amusing counterexample, to the broadly accepted fact of a spherical Earth among western Europeans.

Alien said:
The modern conspiracy theory that the Earth is flat, that was a joke on 4Chan which people took seriously.
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I'm sure 4Chan had a part to play in the modern revival of such idiocy, but it sure wasn't invented there. The modern Flat Earth movement is generally acknowledged to have had it's inception with Samuel Rowbotham in the mid-19th century.

debunkingdenial.com

Flat-Earth Theory: Part I

Update December 19, 2024: Will Duffy’s ‘Final Experiment’ Pastor Will Duffy from Colorado had discussions with various Flat-Earthers, specifically about how their theory dealt with Antarctica.&nbsp…
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Alien

Alien
Morbad said:
No one has claimed otherwise and I assume that even Manfred is aware that accurate approximations of Earth's shape and size have been known to exist for more than 2300 years. However, cosmological models that seriously depicted Earth as flat existed long before, and persisted long after, the sphericity of Earth became well-established fact.

Cosmas Indicopleustes' assertions in his Christian Topography, are an amusing counterexample, to the broadly accepted fact of a spherical Earth among western Europeans.



I'm sure 4Chan had a part to play in the modern revival of such idiocy, but it sure wasn't invented there. The modern Flat Earth movement is generally acknowledged to have had it's inception with Samuel Rowbotham in the mid-19th century.

debunkingdenial.com

Flat-Earth Theory: Part I

Update December 19, 2024: Will Duffy’s ‘Final Experiment’ Pastor Will Duffy from Colorado had discussions with various Flat-Earthers, specifically about how their theory dealt with Antarctica.&nbsp…
debunkingdenial.com debunkingdenial.com
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I never claimed it started on 4Chan, only that 4Chan has been influential in many things, including the flat Earth theory.
But I was put in a defensive position, and so I .... you know what, I don't care.
 

Manfred Belheim

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Alien said:
Are you done arguing and insisting you're right?
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Isn't that what the internet is for? Joking obviously, but if you make a claim and I don't agree with it, I'm allowed to say so and to explain why surely? You don't have to respond if you don't want to. It's not intended to be a huge personal grudge match.
 
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