93 JP dlc. What I Hope for and what I Dont want

There's enough of a probability of a JP 93 dlc coming in the next 6 months or so that I wanted to share my hopes and concers. I dont want Frontier to miss the ball on this one so I want to get my thoughts out there for them to see.

So far the dlc's have gotten better from Dr Wu to Claire's Sanctuary. Im sure if we get 93 it will be better still, but here's what I dont want to see.... I dont want to see Frontier do something lackluster that looks like the rest of the game. I dont want to be put on a blank nublar site starting from scratch and be told I have to research everything and build a JP from the ground up. If they go this route with just the same buildings with different skins with all the same limitations we already have in the game this isnt going to live up to the hype. If they go this route we will end up with the same type of ugly cluttered park like all other campaign islands trying to reach a 5 star rating just to unlock a few skins and the safari explorer version of the jurassic tour. Yes we'll get the skins we want and the safari explorer with road path but that's all we'll end up getting without a new experience. That's basically what we got with the Claire dlc.... A small stay on nublar north with a smoking volcano, but in the end we were just 5 staring another park on sanctuary island to get some new stuff.


This is what I hope we get instead.... I hope Frontier goes all out and truly recreates a fully formed Jurassic Park with maybe a few vacant spots we could add onto with something new we havent seen before. Basically we need a Jurassic Park that is mapped out and completely landscaped to look like Jurassic Park when we start. Something that matches the brochure maps we have online. We need a waterfall heli pad, a new fence gate that walking paths can be laid through, the gali plains surrounded by mountains, the hilly fields and lake of the brachi and para's, a roadway leading to an east dock, the large king kong Jurassic Park gates for the safari tour to drive through at the beginning of the tour, the raptor paddock from the movie, the visitor center, a safari lodge hotel with swimming pools and tennis courts, a new restaurant, the aviary even if we dont have flying dinos for it yet, the tunnel through the mountains that the safari tour drives through to get to the Rex paddock, the concrete motes for the Rex paddock, the bathroom at the Rex paddock, the maintenance shed and path muldoon dies on, the waterfall next to the east dock road that Nedry encounters the dilo on..... This dlc needs to be Jurassic Park right from the get go. I want to jump into it and be hit with so much nostalgia that my eyes start to tear up. If they can even change the park management screen so we get it to look like the JP control room that would be a nice touch. We need the game's launch trailer InGen skin for the helicopter. Honestly we need this campaign to be Ranger driven so that the Rangers do all the tranqing and not the chopper because that wasn't seen in the movie or the book. This is also an opportunity for them to add a "guest rescue" mechanic into the game for the Ranger Jeeps or the Helicopter, even if for example this only takes place at the end of the campaign when they escape the Visitor's Center.

As far as storyline for it they could start with some of the events of the movie and book where we have to move raptors with an old fashioned land based cage and vehicle. They could even start earlier with a scenario where they break out of their normal paddock so they have to be sedated by Ranger's and then moved with a cargo truck (close to the tour trucks we have now just with a transport crate on the back) to their security pen. This is how we would get the pre-made raptor sec pen paddock from the movie. Of course when moving the last raptor something goes wrong and we have an employee death. This obviously would be a hit to finances and which would lead to us bringing the original tour guests in. Going through the timeline of the movie could open up tons of new features to the game that we dont have now. For example we could get the goat feeder with a goat on a chain and they could add in the idea that along with the goat when you release it on command it releases some type of pheromone lure to get the Rex's attention drawn to the feeder quicker. This would be a type of scent lure that only triggers if you manually dispense food from a feeder. They could also allow a new road tool with the path tools for the east dock and other park roads so they you could recreate the Nedry scene in some fashion. At the end of the campaign we would need Lethal Measures, so actual shotguns for the Rangers to attempt to kill rampaging Raptors. Along with this they'll need to add Robert Muldoon and Gerry Harding as people that appear in the Ranger Jeeps instead of the generic people we have right now.

I think they could basically make this an open ended campaign style dlc where you choose different scenario's to play through. You could have a cannon version that leads to disaster and an ultimate guest rescue. Then you could have a changing history play through where added measure you unlock in the cannon version allow the tour to go without failure and the park gets signed off on.

The end result to this type of setup where we start with a fully made and detailed Jurassic Park is that once we complete this campaign we will have lots of extra things we can carry over to our other islands. Such as:

Safari Explorer Tour with paved road electronic track
King Kong Jurassic Park Gates (place-able anywhere on a tour track) for the tour trucks to drive through
Lure Scents added to manual dispension of feeders to get dinosaurs to come out during a tour (something possibly trigger-able while riding or driving a tour vehicle) Or Chained goat feeders to guarantee Rex comes to eat it at that spot
Ranger Jeeps that can Tranq and Revive
Land Based Cargo Crate Transport
Concrete motes that you can add to a fence line
Raptors Jumping or climbing out of fences (maybe make it a gene that allows this) so they must be placed in JP pen or a new Higher Fence put into the game
Actual Roads for vehicles in the paths menu
Gates you can place on top of paths or road ways that guest or vehicles can walk through
New Bathroom needs for guests
Lethal Weapons for Rangers
Guest Rescue system either from Rangers or Choppers
New Tunnels we could build for our tour paths to go through
Signs for us to place like East Dock and Paddock Signs
Changeable Ranger opertators, just ike we change the Jeep skin we should be able to change drivers and operators of Rangers and other vehicles to switch them to Muldoon, Gerry Harding, Ray Arnold, etc..

There's alot more that they could add that im not going to list. But basically this is an opportunity to add tons of new features into this game and new design features for park builds. I know we'll all be happy with the safari tour, visitor center, and JP skins. But im hoping by sharing these ideas we get A LOT more than just that. It's such a golden opportunity.

This post is meant to be fun about what could be done. So please dont turn it into an argumenative thread about asking too much or too little. Or debating what the devs can and cannot do. These are just possibilities here.
 
With some of the videos I have seen over the past month I think it's safe to say it's a 95% chance we will get a 1993 JP DLC. The best videos are made by Swrve and BestInSlot did a few. There is a high chance a 93 JP DLC is on it's way. Which means the 4chan leaker was most likely legit. Frontier must be really unhappy with a leaker in their company.

While the idea of a nearly completely built JP would be a great thing to see I don't think it would be much fun. This is a building game after all. It seems like you are setting your hopes really high and I don't think you will get everything you expect. You will most likely get something that is within capabilities of the game and it's engine. That means you can forget about a recreation of JP on Nublar. JP covered nearly an entire island. All we get is a small part of an island to build a park on. I think the biggest build area in the game is the Nublar North map. I believe it's even bigger than the Sorna. I did hear that we will get a new buildable area on Nublar in the JP 93 DLC. I doubt it will be big enough to recreate JP accurately.

As far as the story goes? No one has any idea what they will do and how they will handle it. All I know is what Swrve and BestInSlot have found. Swrve found pictures of Muldoon and Ray Arnold in the game and no they aren't used in the ingen database. They are those pictures used for when a character says something in game like Cabot Finch. I doubt they can afford to get all the actors to come back and do voice work for video game DLC. So that means they will have to find voice over actors that sound kind of like the characters from the movie. In my opinion the Owen Grady voice actor did a pretty good. I only watched JW a few times but I thought it was Chris Pratt. The imitation Chris Pratt/Owen Grady sounded a lot better than the voice actors in JPOG.

But if Frontier can get Sam Neil, Laura Dern, Samuel L. Jackson, Wayne Knight and the guy who played Donald Gennaro to do voice work then excellent. But I doubt we will be hearing them in the game. Sam Jackson is actually pretty popular right now thanks to the Marvel movies so he won't be cheap, if they could even get him. Richard Attenborough is deceased and so is the guy who played Robert Muldoon. Since it's a park building game and I suspect we will be running our own JP you would only need the people required to do so that were in the first movie. You could leave out Gennaro, Dr. Grant and Dr. Sattler. So I wouldn't expect a video game reunion of the original JP cast. It's basically impossible. But some high quality voice actors would be nice. I would really like to hear someone that can do a good impression of Richard Attenborough's John Hammond. That would be the icing on the 93 JP DLC cake IMO.

What I suspect we will get is a what the 4cha leaker said. We will have to get JP back up and running. Then it will probably fall into the usual gameplay of running it as park, unlocking stuff and getting a 5 star rating. Which is pretty cool IMO cause we will literally be running JP and not the terrible, overly corporate and modern JW. I also imagine we will be seeing characters from the movies return with hopefully some high quality voice actors that sound as close to the actual actors as possible. We will also most likely get some new JP themed assets for the game. Maybe some of them will just be reskins of old assets. I am looking forward to getting the Ford Explorer Safari ride and a visitor center. Also the new Nublar map I heard we might get. I am not expecting anything major. I mean just getting this DLC will be pretty big. I don't expect to get anything that requires major changes to the game or the engine.

I see that you want them to add an aviary. I have to ask why? There was no aviary in the JP movie. There was one in the novel. But no aviary was ever seen in the movie. As far as cluttered parks are concerned the best way to stop that is to stop trying to cram every Dinosaur into every park. People sacrifice aesthetics for over crowding their parks with enclosures for Dinosaurs. I have no idea why. You are supposed to choose a few Dinosaurs and build a nice looking park.
 
With some of the videos I have seen over the past month I think it's safe to say it's a 95% chance we will get a 1993 JP DLC. The best videos are made by Swrve and BestInSlot did a few. There is a high chance a 93 JP DLC is on it's way. Which means the 4chan leaker was most likely legit. Frontier must be really unhappy with a leaker in their company.
I do think that part of the leak the leaker revealed may be true, but I would still advise at least some caution for the stuff the two 4Chan leaks the one leaker posted that hasn't been confirmed yet. You may never know what the next reveals truly may be. The matter here is, how much more of the yet to be revealed information in the two leaks are legit?

The 4Chan leaker's second post suggested accurately the Claire's Sanctuary content, but I am pretty skeptical about some of the suggested content it said the 93'DLC will have. Nobody here even truly knows who the 4Chan leaker really is in may ways. Which is why, in my book, it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
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Yeah im a big fan of bestinslot. The stuff he's talked about seems to indicate a 93dlc is in the works.

I know we prob wont get a fully premade park but i wanted to put that idea out there to get as much as they have time to do. With the safari tour really needing a way to ensure dinos appear where they can be seen the chained goat or lure system would be a big help for all future parks if they havent considered it.

The aviary building would just be for decoration and atmosphere, same as the bathroom really. Like the way we hoped Sorna would have old abandoned buildings hidden in the forest to have a cooler atmosphere when we got there. Unfortunately we didnt get the nostalgia on Sorna so this dlc could give us some perhaps.

The cluttered park thing isnt about the amount of dinos. It's just a product of 5 staring in the game... Each hotel or viewer area needs so many shopping, food, and fun buildings... So you place multiple ones all over to meet needs.. Then of course monorails are mandatory too... The parks always look so ugly thaf way. Plus if we have to do all that it'll look just like jurassic world with all of those same shops...

But if its like JP where we depend on only the safari ride dino visibility will be so low idk how 5 staring it will work... That gives me hope that it wont be a generic 5 star island campaign and be more mission based like nublar north was.

In any case... It'll still be worth the money just for the safari tour and skins we get.
 
The aviary building would just be for decoration and atmosphere, same as the bathroom really. Like the way we hoped Sorna would have old abandoned buildings hidden in the forest to have a cooler atmosphere when we got there. Unfortunately we didnt get the nostalgia on Sorna so this dlc could give us some perhaps.
I'm not sure if or how that will be a thing because, if you look back at the two aviaries in the films, they're absolutely enormous. I really don't think a much smaller size aviary to build would make any sense for them since they would need at least lots of room to fly around, plus it may make them feel a lot less special than what they are in the franchise. Pterosaurs (Ptranodon and Dimorphodon, both with their respective Jurassic World aesthetic designs) appeared in the two Jurassic World trilogy saga films, so it doesn't kinda make sense that only a 93 styled DLC expansion pack would have this exclusively, at least not right now for the moment.
 
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Yeah im a big fan of bestinslot. The stuff he's talked about seems to indicate a 93dlc is in the works.

I know we prob wont get a fully premade park but i wanted to put that idea out there to get as much as they have time to do. With the safari tour really needing a way to ensure dinos appear where they can be seen the chained goat or lure system would be a big help for all future parks if they havent considered it.

The aviary building would just be for decoration and atmosphere, same as the bathroom really. Like the way we hoped Sorna would have old abandoned buildings hidden in the forest to have a cooler atmosphere when we got there. Unfortunately we didnt get the nostalgia on Sorna so this dlc could give us some perhaps.

The cluttered park thing isnt about the amount of dinos. It's just a product of 5 staring in the game... Each hotel or viewer area needs so many shopping, food, and fun buildings... So you place multiple ones all over to meet needs.. Then of course monorails are mandatory too... The parks always look so ugly thaf way. Plus if we have to do all that it'll look just like jurassic world with all of those same shops...

But if its like JP where we depend on only the safari ride dino visibility will be so low idk how 5 staring it will work... That gives me hope that it wont be a generic 5 star island campaign and be more mission based like nublar north was.

In any case... It'll still be worth the money just for the safari tour and skins we get.

That's one of the issues this game has and one of the things I don't like about it. Having to put those shops everywhere. That's not how real parks and luxury resorts look. All the hotels and shops would be in one area. Guests would use the monorail to get back to them.
 
That's one of the issues this game has and one of the things I don't like about it. Having to put those shops everywhere. That's not how real parks and luxury resorts look. All the hotels and shops would be in one area. Guests would use the monorail to get back to them.

I would like it if hotels and shops were changed for the better. Also hoping for upgrades for them in the possible JWE2. :)
 
I would like it if hotels and shops were changed for the better. Also hoping for upgrades for them in the possible JWE2. :)

That is one thing that needs a rework and I do hope it's better in JWE 2 if we get it. Having to put all those shops near every enclosure or group of enclosures just makes the parks look like crap. It's totally unrealistic. I don't remember having to put shops near every ride in Roller Coaster Tycoon games or in Planet Coaster. I hope Planet Zoo doesn't operate the same way.
 
That is one thing that needs a rework and I do hope it's better in JWE 2 if we get it. Having to put all those shops near every enclosure or group of enclosures just makes the parks look like crap. It's totally unrealistic. I don't remember having to put shops near every ride in Roller Coaster Tycoon games or in Planet Coaster. I hope Planet Zoo doesn't operate the same way.
Or at least place down small booths and stands like the Jurassic Traders Outpost.
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Imagine if they were designed to be more alluring with upgrades. Where they would be able to take in more guest. Be more appealing not just in the program but also while you upgrade it. Then to have little booths/stands and such that would be able to be easier to place than the larger shops. While not having to take more place when you upgrade, but should show a visual difference where it is also more appealing to us as the players. More artistic design placed into it where it isn't out of place. More like being beautified. Much like the more we could upgrade to add to better flags, signs, trash cans, benches and so on. Almost like starting on par with JP and moving into a more pristine park like JW and beyond. That would be awesome. Not to mention visually stunning if done correctly.
 
But then you are just back to having to place shops everywhere. Just smaller ones.

I dont mind being able to plant down shops or small kiosks along the paths but like you say you shouldnt HAVE to put a giftshop, fast food and whatever somewhere simply because a viewing gallery is there. They need to fix the way guests needs work. It would be better if it worked like the hotels where the population dictates the amount of food/fun/shopping/etc and you simply put whatever building you need where ever you like. That way you can put your guest building wherever you want them to be without having to mess up your rating.
 
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I dont mind being able to plant down shops or small kiosks along the paths but like you say you shouldnt HAVE to put a giftshop, fast food and whatever somewhere simply because a viewing gallery is there. They need to fix the way guests needs work. It would be better if it worked like the hotels where the population dictates the amount of food/fun/shopping/etc and you simply put whatever building you need where ever you like. That way you can put your guest building wherever you want them to be without having to mess up your rating.

Omg Yes! This is the answer we are looking for! Great idea. Then you could have a strip of shops somewhere that would fulfill all of their shopping, fun, and food/drink needs without having to clutter your park with the same buildings over and over again. This needs to be in an update or jw2. Maybe they could make it a settings option for any game mode. Original shop req settings and then this version as a realistic shop req settings.
 
Omg Yes! This is the answer we are looking for! Great idea. Then you could have a strip of shops somewhere that would fulfill all of their shopping, fun, and food/drink needs without having to clutter your park with the same buildings over and over again. This needs to be in an update or jw2. Maybe they could make it a settings option for any game mode. Original shop req settings and then this version as a realistic shop req settings.

This should be an easy enough fix to implement since the hotel system already works like this. They wouldnt have to change any of the models or the ways items are sold.
 
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