A challenge to you all...

[Crusina Luachra]

For those who know me...I like finding things. But I'm not against looking at things others have found, if it's unique enough.

One thing that's always eluded me is a system with six stars in close proximity. You can see my signature below for an example of what I'm talking about, I am NOT talking about a system with more then five stars. I am talking about a system that has 6 or more with a proximity like that.

I've gone over like 1.7 million ly traveled and I've found multiple ringed neutron/white dwarfs, I've discovered and put my name on an Earth-like in an Planetary nebula, I've found 3 systems with 5 stars in close proximity.

But I have never found a system with 6 stars in close proximity. The best I have found is (it's not the one in my signature) 5 stars with 4 of them being in a radius of about 20ls and the 5th like 40ls or something? I'm to lazy to post a link to the video of it but...yeah.

Has anyone ever found a system like this?

 

[Qohen Leth]

I think I had that, if I can just find the screenie

 

[Qohen Leth]

My mistake, it was five. Found during Distant Worlds 3302.

 

[schlowi123]

I get the idea, but your distance "requirements" seem to strict. If you have a (true) giant several hundred ls away, it still seems close.

 

[Crusina Luachra]

I get the idea, but your distance "requirements" seem to strict. If you have a (true) giant several hundred ls away, it still seems close.

Well if the star was large enough and it had 5 other planets I'd accept it. But that's still the problem of finding 6 starts that close.

 

[schlowi123]

I apologize for not expressing what I actually wanted to ask but being overly complicated instead.

This image illustrates what I mean:

I am "close" to the "smaller" star. "Close" means in this case that I'm 111 ls away. But the smaller star has a radius almost 9 times that of Sol.
The larger star has a radius of more than 425 times that of Sol. I think I was more than 1 kls away when i made that picture.

So what I wanted to ask is the following: Do you want the the stars to be actually close or do you want them to "look" close.

Here is another example (the large one is rather far away):

 

[Mooing]

How about six stars close enough to host an ELW? I haven't visited them personally, but 2 of them exist. Bleae Aub UF-N d7-0 has six within 400 ls

 

[duckofdeath]

Three with a toasty place to call home.

This is technically 6, but they are a fair bit apart...

 

[Crusina Luachra]

I apologize for not expressing what I actually wanted to ask but being overly complicated instead.

This image illustrates what I mean:


I am "close" to the "smaller" star. "Close" means in this case that I'm 111 ls away. But the smaller star has a radius almost 9 times that of Sol.
The larger star has a radius of more than 425 times that of Sol. I think I was more than 1 kls away when i made that picture.

So what I wanted to ask is the following: Do you want the the stars to be actually close or do you want them to "look" close.

Here is another example (the large one is rather far away):

It's the size/closeness I am looking for. Not the actual distance. So you are correct, I want them to look close but if one or multiple stars are just supermassive stars that'd be acceptable as well.

Me saying within 20-100ls is more because that's what you are most likely to find. Not because it's my only criteria.

This is technically 6, but they are a fair bit apart...
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First of all nice find. Second all you are correct, not quite close enough =[

 

[schlowi123]

Could you pinpoint your size/closeness ratio? Judging from the first picture I've posted, sounds 9 Sol radii / 111 ls good enough?

At the position of Mercury the ratio is more than an order of magnitude smaller; ca. 1 Sol radius / 200 ls. Or in other words and after some geometry: the opening angle of the triangle between the eye of an observer on Mercury and the disc of the sun is ca. twice of the value said angle has as seen from Earth.

My gut feeling tells me this is approx. the size of the two background gasballs in your signature. Does that sound approx. right regarding what you are looking for? If yes, that would be a quite a bit more relaxed condition than the initially proposed 9/111 ratio. And probably even more relaxed than what you wrote in the opening post.

I'm not mocking you. I'm just trying to translate your question into sth. that makes sense to look for. Well, I could have done that with the statements in your original post, but I thought if taken literally what you've stated there is not necessarily what you're after (which was confirmed by you).
This happens rather often; a seemingly simple question where the answer requires a lot to be taken into account. I think that's fun

So if you say sth. like "I'd like to know if a system with at least six stars exist in which, seen from the point of entry into the system, all stars appear larger than Sol as seen from Mercury" I would search in the EDSM data for that (as soon as I have some time) … or well, likely Orvidius will come up with the answer much earlier

 

[Crusina Luachra]

Could you pinpoint your size/closeness ratio? Judging from the first picture I've posted, sounds 9 Sol radii / 111 ls good enough?

At the position of Mercury the ratio is more than an order of magnitude smaller; ca. 1 Sol radius / 200 ls. Or in other words and after some geometry: the opening angle of the triangle between the eye of an observer on Mercury and the disc of the sun is ca. twice of the value said angle has as seen from Earth.

My gut feeling tells me this is approx. the size of the two background gasballs in your signature. Does that sound approx. right regarding what you are looking for? If yes, that would be a quite a bit more relaxed condition than the initially proposed 9/111 ratio. And probably even more relaxed than what you wrote in the opening post.

I'm not mocking you. I'm just trying to translate your question into sth. that makes sense to look for. Well, I could have done that with the statements in your original post, but I thought if taken literally what you've stated there is not necessarily what you're after (which was confirmed by you).
This happens rather often; a seemingly simple question where the answer requires a lot to be taken into account. I think that's fun

So if you say sth. like "I'd like to know if a system with at least six stars exist in which, seen from the point of entry into the system, all stars appear larger than Sol as seen from Mercury" I would search in the EDSM data for that (as soon as I have some time) … or well, likely Orvidius will come up with the answer much earlier

I can't really express it as well as you can lol

Simply put, in my signature there one star that is much further away.

I want all the stars to be in your face as soon as you jump in, not 4 close together and off in the distance looking small.

So if we had for example, 6 supermassive stars close enough that none of them looked distant. That would work.

What would not work is 5 supermassive stars and the 6th 100,000ls away.



The prime issue I come across is always this, I can get 5 stars close together of any variety, it's extremely rare but I can find them.

But I can not ever seem to get six of them close together like the 4 stars in my signature are. I know it's because of stellar forge but that doesn't mean their isn't a glitched system or something somewhere that has that criteria.

So as long as those stars give you the same impression as the 4 in my signature do, it doesn't matter their size or type.

 

[schlowi123]

I looked for it and I found just one system that satisfies the discussed conditions.
This system is 2MASS J05351904+0954550 … and that was a false positive because at least two systems have that designation leading to a starcount of 5.
There is also a lot of garbage in the data, stating that the distance is zero even though a star is clearly not the jump-in-point.

I wondered why I couldn't find such a system since there clearly are enough systems with six or more stars … until I remembered the weird sizes of stars in ED and stopped wondering.
Since a lot (most?) stars are (considerable?) smaller than Sol (which is actually the case in the real Galaxy as far as I know) they need to be quite close, to appear large enough, thus the conditions are tighter than the mercury considerations above
To get an impression how tight, I looked at systems with stars that are closer than 100 ls to the point of arrival. Due to certain circumstances I had to interrupt the search approx. 1/3 through the data and had found just 17 systems with 5 stars that are that close. I don't know how many of them "suffer" from the "0 ls"-data error mentioned above.

Well, I would say such a system you are looking for wasn't found, yet.

However, I have just looked for red/yellow/white/blue-ish stars. If you allow dead stars or almost-but-not-really-stars-but-we-call-them-stars-anyway such a system might exist. But it's probably not much to look at.

 

[Crusina Luachra]

aw thanks for looking though....i figured as much.

 

[Anchous]

5 years in the game, 80% of them in travel. I don't remember a single system with 6 stars next to each other Maybe I didn't look for them on purpose....
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I noticed an interesting trend that the longer you play and find more and more things, the more extravagant your goal is For me now idefix - 3 earth-like planets in one system, even if they have different stars.
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From the point of view of star formation and stability of the system the goal you specified is impossible More precisely, it is possible , but only during the period of star formation. Then all of them will be divided into pairs, threes, and some will be thrown out of the system.