A Future-Proof Strategy for Planet Zoo: Expansion Pack [Please come support folks]

[ilo]

Oh but I do care

i guess no one cares anymore or PZ is too broken to keep on. For who that supports the pz2 idea, look at City Skyline 2, there are more hate and like. They so called upgraded everything.

oh, but I do care about PZ, greatly, and I don't support a PZ2 idea. I do understand the delicate situation of Frontier at the moment, that is why I disagree pushing them as if they didn't know or didn't try better.

I know PZ is going to be around for quite some time yet, even if PZ2 launched in half a year, it will take some time to catch with the current PZ1+mods status of the game. Of course we all want more and more PZ1, but best we can do is accept what is available at the moment and let Frontier go ahead with whatever plan they have too. Suggestions are always welcome, but they need to fit in the context: all your suggestions are based in a heavy early investment of resources, like if you had some kind of magic formula that will save a game that might not need saving, without game development experience or without inside information about the company plans.

Posting your suggestions and letting them decide if they are worth taking is good enough, no need to add all the drama around 'saving the game' or 'life or death' situation. Suggestions are always good when they are not forced.

 

[premierfong]

Oh but I do care

oh, but I do care about PZ, greatly, and I don't support a PZ2 idea. I do understand the delicate situation of Frontier at the moment, that is why I disagree pushing them as if they didn't know or didn't try better.

I know PZ is going to be around for quite some time yet, even if PZ2 launched in half a year, it will take some time to catch with the current PZ1+mods status of the game. Of course we all want more and more PZ1, but best we can do is accept what is available at the moment and let Frontier go ahead with whatever plan they have too. Suggestions are always welcome, but they need to fit in the context: all your suggestions are based in a heavy early investment of resources, like if you had some kind of magic formula that will save a game that might not need saving, without game development experience or without inside information about the company plans.

Posting your suggestions and letting them decide if they are worth taking is good enough, no need to add all the drama around 'saving the game' or 'life or death' situation. Suggestions are always good when they are not forced.

Thanks, no one read or comment. Even the youtubers lost hope.

 

[ilo]

you seem defeated, why is that?

 

[Swjosdotschka]

For every "look at game XY, the sequel is horrible" you can pull up another "look at XY, the sequel is awesome!" game.
We all love the game here, the ones that support a sequel (like me) and the ones that don't. And it's not a thing of "losing hope", it's a thing of being realistic.

You say we have a stable base, but we just haven't at this point, after four years of coding. Why do you think free flying birds were never added? Because Frontier deliberately wanted to leave money on the table?
I understand your enthusiasm for the game. I mean, it's not even a game for me that fills my gaming heart, it is a whole seperate hobby that I don't want to live without anymore. And we don't need to. If you truly love the game that much, then you have a very good game in your hands to play for years to come. You're not losing anything.

We talk about larger expansions for 4 years now (by the way: there you have it, the game WAS supported for "years to come", everything in this world however does have a finish line). The fact that Frontier never acted upon those wishes has reasons. Maybe we don't understand them, maybe we don't see them, but they are there and a forum thread stating "hey, please change that" just won't change anything.

Substantial feedback and sharing ideas is important for any company to improve, and that obviously include game developers. But as @ilo said, there is a little (actually a lot) more to it to consider then throwing buzzwords in.

And Frontier is financially not doing well. They simply do not have the money to invest in an "old" game with base-changing free updates (leaving the technical aspect aside here) in pure hopes that it will draw in more players. Because if it ´does not work, they are simply doomed and financially even more ruined.
What more likely will draw in new players, however, is starting fresh and not trying to lure them in with a game that has 17 DLCs. Newbies are simply overwhelmed at this point, so they rarely buy more than the base game.

 

[premierfong]

you seem defeated, why is that?

All the strongest influencer online seem to lost hope recently. BUT I just saw a video from Rudi, he seem to have hope again. Folks seem not too interest at this thread too. Also I got more hate than likes on Reddit on similar idea.

 

[premierfong]

For every "look at game XY, the sequel is horrible" you can pull up another "look at XY, the sequel is awesome!" game.
We all love the game here, the ones that support a sequel (like me) and the ones that don't. And it's not a thing of "losing hope", it's a thing of being realistic.

You say we have a stable base, but we just haven't at this point, after four years of coding. Why do you think free flying birds were never added? Because Frontier deliberately wanted to leave money on the table?
I understand your enthusiasm for the game. I mean, it's not even a game for me that fills my gaming heart, it is a whole seperate hobby that I don't want to live without anymore. And we don't need to. If you truly love the game that much, then you have a very good game in your hands to play for years to come. You're not losing anything.

We talk about larger expansions for 4 years now (by the way: there you have it, the game WAS supported for "years to come", everything in this world however does have a finish line). The fact that Frontier never acted upon those wishes has reasons. Maybe we don't understand them, maybe we don't see them, but they are there and a forum thread stating "hey, please change that" just won't change anything.

Substantial feedback and sharing ideas is important for any company to improve, and that obviously include game developers. But as @ilo said, there is a little (actually a lot) more to it to consider then throwing buzzwords in.

And Frontier is financially not doing well. They simply do not have the money to invest in an "old" game with base-changing free updates (leaving the technical aspect aside here) in pure hopes that it will draw in more players. Because if it ´does not work, they are simply doomed and financially even more ruined.
What more likely will draw in new players, however, is starting fresh and not trying to lure them in with a game that has 17 DLCs. Newbies are simply overwhelmed at this point, so they rarely buy more than the base game.

yaa, at least there is mods. Thats all I can say.

 

[ilo]

All the strongest influencer online seem to lost hope recently.

They didn't lose hope for the game, the moved to something that gives them more clicks/views. This should tell you more about the influencers than about the game.