Maybe I'll fit an ADC now:
A reason to fit an Advanced Docking computer (HCS update)
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Honestly, it was stuff like this that made me look at buying the HCS packs, to give me the feeling of having crew aboard my ship.
Trouble is, I just don't like having to use Voice-Attack so I wish there was a way to get the voice-packs working without it.
If VA released some kind of "bare-bones" version, that only had the functionality to allow the voice-packs to work (somehow), I'd be in there like a rat up a drainpipe.
Trouble is, I just don't like having to use Voice-Attack so I wish there was a way to get the voice-packs working without it.
If VA released some kind of "bare-bones" version, that only had the functionality to allow the voice-packs to work (somehow), I'd be in there like a rat up a drainpipe.
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^This ... I have the HCS packs, but don't have the patience to program VA.
Very cool. Once.
For me personally, after hearing the same banter 5 times in a row I'd be more inclined to tell them all just to and get it done.
Anyway to program some variability into it ? I'd be much more inclined to do this if it wasn't a single line of patter.
For me personally, after hearing the same banter 5 times in a row I'd be more inclined to tell them all just to and get it done.
Anyway to program some variability into it ? I'd be much more inclined to do this if it wasn't a single line of patter.
Cool voice pack. I agree though that after ten times, I'd airvent Data.
Is there something in particular about setting up VA that puts you both off? I came to the conclusion that I’m a spectacular example of a Luddite a long time ago and yet I found it to be very simple and pretty quick to set up. Training the voice recognition was a drag admittedly but simple enough.
When I first got an HCS pack they were a fiddle but the new(ish) configurator means even I have an amazing amount of flexibility. Without it I’d be in a world of confusion trying to sort macros for my pips, as it is I’ve got all combat combinations set at lightening fast response times that I could never reach myself (not that it disguises my PvP inabilities.)
*I’m aware I should probably back away from these HCS threads as I’m going to appear to be a shill pretty soon!
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Erm... HCS basically does everything for you. XD
And it's only gotten even easier since I got mine.
I installed Voice Attack in order to run an HCS Voice Pack, but ended up abandoning the Voice Pack - it went through a phase of asking to change my pips for me after I requested docking that I found irritating - and just wrote my own Voice Attack macros, including some pips change macros for a couple of hat switches on my Warthog that I wouldn't like to do without.
They do say that the audio sequence varies (at 0:37 it says "The audio events will change each time..."). I have a load of the packs and I vary the crew make-up every trip so currently get a lot of variation anyway, hopefully there are enough alternatives in each pack to make these sequences interesting.
It wasn't "setting up" VA that put me off.
In no particular order, the reasons I opted against VA are as follows:-
I found it confusing to buy.
I looked at the basic product, looked at the voice packs and saw that some of them require various add-ons, looked at the add-ons - which link to other add-ons, which gets thoroughly confusing... and then realise that, at some point, I've started looking at things that aren't ED-related products at all.
Granted, I probably could figure it all out if I was properly interested.
I don't like using headphones just so I've got a mic'.
I've got a 7.1 Surround system for my PC in my Command Module and I enjoy listening to it.
Again, I could probably get around this by buying a standalone USB mic' if I was more interested - and if the output from my speakers didn't interfere with the mic'.
I don't like, erm, talking to myself.
When I do use headphones it's 'cos I'm on my computer late at night and, in that case, I don't really want to keep everybody awake by talking to my PC.
And I don't want people to think I'm a loony because I talk to my PC.
Lastly, I'm just not keen on the idea of voice-control.
I like tactile stuff - pushing buttons and flipping switches - so that's how my PC controllers are set up, which enhances my immersion.
I suppose it could be argued that voice-control is just as immersive, kind of like talking to a computer in Star Trek or even talking to a member of my crew, but I just don't like it.
So, erm, yeah.
If VA created some kind of "bare-bones" system that allowed the voice-packs to automatically do their thing based purely on what the vanilla game was doing, I'd certainly buy it but the idea of having to set it all up kind of ruins the illusion for me.
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To be clear, I really don't mean to provide a big, long, list of "everything that's wrong with VA".
It seems like a great product.
That's just a big, long, list of why I'm not keen on it.
It wasn't "setting up" VA that put me off.
In no particular order, the reasons I opted against VA are as follows:-
I found it confusing to buy.
I looked at the basic product, looked at the voice packs and saw that some of them require various add-ons, looked at the add-ons - which link to other add-ons, which gets thoroughly confusing... and then realise that, at some point, I've started looking at things that aren't ED-related products at all.
Granted, I probably could figure it all out if I was properly interested.
I don't like using headphones just so I've got a mic'.
I've got a 7.1 Surround system for my PC in my Command Module and I enjoy listening to it.
Again, I could probably get around this by buying a standalone USB mic' if I was more interested - and if the output from my speakers didn't interfere with the mic'.
I don't like, erm, talking to myself.
When I do use headphones it's 'cos I'm on my computer late at night and, in that case, I don't really want to keep everybody awake by talking to my PC.
And I don't want people to think I'm a loony because I talk to my PC.
Lastly, I'm just not keen on the idea of voice-control.
I like tactile stuff - pushing buttons and flipping switches - so that's how my PC controllers are set up, which enhances my immersion.
I suppose it could be argued that voice-control is just as immersive, kind of like talking to a computer in Star Trek or even talking to a member of my crew, but I just don't like it.
So, erm, yeah.
If VA created some kind of "bare-bones" system that allowed the voice-packs to automatically do their thing based purely on what the vanilla game was doing, I'd certainly buy it but the idea of having to set it all up kind of ruins the illusion for me.
+EDIT+
To be clear, I really don't mean to provide a big, long, list of "everything that's wrong with VA".
It seems like a great product.
That's just a big, long, list of why I'm not keen on it.
One reason is always enough, a big long list just means it must be a definitive ‘no.’
I need to remember that using VR I’ve always got a mic and that was my biggest problem pre-vr. I went through gaming headphones, a stand-mic, a clip on mic and a weird call centre type thing with no earphone. Some worked better than others but some were just dreadful and picked up so many other noises that VA was constantly reacting to something other than me. I suspect I put up with it all as, at the time, it was helping me to learn the game...or at least let me play whilst I learned.
Finally, someone being honest
(just joking, everyone is honest here … right )Stealthie, you are not alone. I would cringe if I saw someone 'talking' to their computer, well not really talking per sec, but uttering disjointed, meaningless words out of context to the real world around them. Actually the same goes for one of the reasons why I have resisted getting VR. Stems back to when VR first came out, one of my mates got one and invited a bunch of us over to 'experience the revolution' as he put it. Well it was hilarious, not for whomever was wearing it but for the rest of us laughing our butts of at their weird gyrations. I shudder to think what someone who is just sitting there watching someone with a VR headset on using Voice Attack thinks they are doing. It can't be complimentary lol
And before everyone cuts the circulation off to their brain by wearing overly tight underwear, this is my personal view and is one of many why I don't use VR or VA (or some of the other game 'enhancement' mechanics available for use.
Repetition on the hcs stuff isn't that bad. You're not actually listening to the lines, when you're kicking it off its about the action that's being performed. Completely different experience than watching a video trying to decide if you'll like it. There is a bit of variation as well, while you get to know them all after a while its more than you expect.
Also pretty sure there is a silent mode as well, ie you talk and it just does it. At least there used to be.
Havent used mine in ages though. Every time you rebuild windows you have to train the voice engine again (hang on i could just update the image couldn't i... doh), and im still scarred from preordering the carina one and it being so horrifically bad. Sounds like its for a sexualty based special interest group without being sold with an appropriate warning.
Also pretty sure there is a silent mode as well, ie you talk and it just does it. At least there used to be.
Havent used mine in ages though. Every time you rebuild windows you have to train the voice engine again (hang on i could just update the image couldn't i... doh), and im still scarred from preordering the carina one and it being so horrifically bad. Sounds like its for a sexualty based special interest group without being sold with an appropriate warning.
I spent a LOT of time trying to overcome the mic issues (I too have a surround-sound speaker system on the PC) - I have a large amount of audio stuff for other things so I went through all kinds of mic setups to cut out the VA reacting to sounds from the PC rather than my voice. In the end a good dynamic mic (as used on stage by vocalists) gave the best results - I mount it on one of my cantilever-arm mic stands (btw - condenser mics were too sensitive, even my very directional Røde shotguns) .
I also use a hotkey to toggle VA listening and there is the option to use a trigger word so that only commands starting with that are actioned ( I don't find I need that).
Two points.
First, the verbosity can be set which can make a big difference whilst also, as you say, most of the time they simply react to your orders with in-character confirmations. Even adjusting the likelihood (1 in 2 to 1 in 10 chance) of communicating - the recent update that included the customiser made a huge improvement to the packs. The videos really don’t show the scope for what they can, or won’t, do.
Second point. Carina. By Gad man that was the most disappointing purchase I’ve made in a long time. Reason enough to ensure I never pre order again....and I really wanted to like anything Marina Sirtis did.
....and with that, I’ll stop. I’m definitely sounding like a shonky salesperson now.
I have a number of hcs voice packs, installed adc said "number 1 take us out".... nothing.
Any one get this to work ?
Any one get this to work ?
It is an update due this weekend I believe.
You are advised of updates on starting VA - the HCS tools (I suppose) checks for updates on starting. I have had several updates like this.
Fully auto-updating of packs (not just tools and singularity) is supposed to be coming in the next couple of weeks.
(Yes I know, far too many crew, curses to all the sale events ...
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Thanks for all the info on hcs packs, i probably only us 20% of what hcs does.
They most likely released video before next update.
It would be nice if they had better documentation on voice commands and usage.
They most likely released video before next update.
It would be nice if they had better documentation on voice commands and usage.