Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter

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lol, perfect

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Almost like it's a sign that people like playing WITH people as much as (more than?) AGAINST them.

I'm confused what any of this means at this point, I spent last 2 days trying to convince people to respect each others opinions and methods of play be them good guys or bad guys as they desire, but was told to shut up :D

Apparently this is resolving issues more effectively somehow
 
I'm confused what any of this means at this point, I spent last 2 days trying to convince people to respect each others opinions and methods of play be them good guys or bad guys as they desire, but was told to shut up :D

Apparently this is resolving issues more effectively somehow

You and your reasoned approach to discussions about shared digital entertainment pastimes. Don't you know how incredibly serious and important this is? Common human courtesy be damned, this is Pretend Spaceman we're talking about here!
 
You and your reasoned approach to discussions about shared digital entertainment pastimes. Don't you know how incredibly serious and important this is? Common human courtesy be damned, this is Pretend Spaceman we're talking about here!

Hey man :p truth be told I've sort of had a mental tip-over today, I realized that mocking on this forum yields about the same results as reasoning :D

Which made me trully appreciate the extent of comedy around here.

I came to a realization that intead of worrying about anything that happens in this forum, I should simply trust evolution, and let natural selection take its course.

So what if PvP'ers get boo'ed out of the game, player numbers will drop low enough to extinction and then they will be begged to come back (which FD is already doing by tripping head over heels to balance and improve PvP), other issues will resolve themselves in a similar fashion


Uppon comming to this realization I must admit that trully, I am finally at peace , and never felt so zen :D


So let it be whatever will, I hereby officially resign my mortal coil on these forums.


Instead I will focus on doing what's trully important for me - helping players evolve and understand the game, and keep growing my channels on YouTube and Twitch which are dedicated to educating ED.


o7 CMDR's
 
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Donald Trump as a moderator would solve this issue in 2 seconds


:D

Very true, I can see it now.

Trump: "I will make Elite Dangerous great again! By building a wall between Open and other modes! They shall have separate universes separated by the wall!"

Fdevs : "But president Trump, who will have the resources necessary to complete such a--"

Trump: "And I will make Frontier Development pay for it!"

Fdevs : "... how do you declare bankruptcy under your sovereignty, president Trump?"
 
Very true, I can see it now.

Trump: "I will make Elite Dangerous great again! By building a wall between Open and other modes! They shall have separate universes separated by the wall!"

Fdevs : "But president Trump, who will have the resources necessary to complete such a--"

Trump: "And I will make Frontier Development pay for it!"

Fdevs : "... how do you declare bankruptcy under your sovereignty, president Trump?"

I imagined it more like:

Side 1: Q.Q PvP
Side 2: Q.Q PvE

Trump: shut up lol


:D
 
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Very true, I can see it now.

Trump: "I will make Elite Dangerous great again! By building a wall between Open and other modes! They shall have separate universes separated by the wall!"

Fdevs : "But president Trump, who will have the resources necessary to complete such a--"

Trump: "And I will make Frontier Development pay for it!"

Fdevs : "... how do you declare bankruptcy under your sovereignty, president Trump?"

Then when it actually came to , he would reduce it to a fence, a fence berween the PvPers and the PVEers - it would be open and open-pve, same shared universe. Oh and Fdev would pay for it.

Simon
 
It just came to me. We can build a wall between solo and open. People wanting to come to open from solo have to pay a board flipping tax each time they cross. This will fund the wall, keep more people in open, and provide jobs.
 
It just came to me. We can build a wall between solo and open. People wanting to come to open from solo have to pay a board flipping tax each time they cross. This will fund the wall, keep more people in open, and provide jobs.

Best reply to any forum post...ever.
 
Are you getting the hint yet?

Abandon hope, all ye who want this to be a pvp arena . It aint.

This sort of monotone mentality is why Hilary lost the race :D

Even tho I PvP and defend others from PvP'ers I never wanted the game to be "PVP arena".

Honestly I would be gobsmacked if PVP'ers want that either.


All I want personally is a universe with many players where both good and bad things can equally happen just like in the real life, giving us opportunity to overcome them, especially when all the necesary tools to do so come pre-included in the package.

Nobody wants this to become Star Treck Online either, where ships are invincible untill somebody flips the switch allowing themselves to take damage, because that's stupid and in no way realistic, especially when ED portrays itself as a space simulator, not a space arcade game.

But hey, as I said, I'm confident that the natural selection will sort it out ;)
 
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All I want personally is a universe with many players where both good and bad things can happen just like in the real life, giving us opportunity to overcome them, especially when all the necesary tools to do so come pre-included in the package.

Then you also need a universe where bad things can and do happen to gankers and pk-ers in high security systems. Right now gankers and pk-ers ARE the bad things, and it's not worth being in open unless you run a pvp build.

However back to the point I was making which you avoided by hair splitting... there's a reason that all you can see are pvp/pve threads... because it's STILL a huge issue for a LOT of people, and it's NOT going away, even if you want it to.
 
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Then you also need a universe where bad things can and do happen to gankers and pk-ers in high security systems. Right now gankers and pk-ers ARE the bad things,

They are a bad thing, and true C&P system should be priority I agree, also more reasons for pirates to atack traders / miners ETC.

And I think a statement "there is no point playing open unless u have PVP build is also monotone"

Miners and traders should be vulnerable traveling, they should employ escorts, mercenaries, for their protection, take less obvious routes and stay undetected, also learn to silent run and mod their ships to not get blown up instantly uppon interdiction.

Honestly this whole PVE group mentality boils down to simply refusing to engineer, and proteting engineers in general, have you ever thought about that?

I dont think any engineered trading / mining ship can even get killed in a gank without having more than 90% chance to slip the attacker
 
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And I think a statement "there is no point playing open unless u have PVP build is also monotone"

Honestly? I don't really care what you think, and the fact that you hear it over and over again doesn't make it wrong. Rather it means it is an issue for a lot of people, and it's not going to stop being an issue till it's addressed.

Miners and traders should be vulnerable traveling, they should employ escorts, mercenaries, for their protection, take less obvious routes and stay undetected, also learn to silent run and mod their ships to not get blown up instantly uppon interdiction.

When fdev put in systems to allow miners and traders to employ npc bodyguards I will agree with that. Till then it sounds a lot like you making excuses for gankers again.

Honestly this whole PVE group mentality boils down to simply refusing to engineer, and proteting engineers in general, have you ever thought about that?

Rubbish.

I dont think any engineered trading / mining ship can even get killed in a gank without having more than 90% chance to slip the attacker

If ganking was symmetrical you might be right, but gankers aren't known for picking fair fights. Just how long do you think a T6 can stand up to a Cutter, even with mods etc? 3 seconds? 5?
 
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