About Land Sizes for Species

Planet Zoo's species that need the biggest land area of all was polar bear. Am I right? Even bigger land area than African elephants. I wonder why or what's the idea.
 

HeatherG

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The area they needed was reduced, but they are the animal that needs the largest land area yes. It accurately depict the area they need in a zoo, when it comes to welfare and things like that.
 
I think after 2 Reductions the current Polar Bear Requirements are fine. Base might be higher than the African Elephant, but Elephant Habitats end up being larger because of Group Size and Additional Space required. Which I'd say is well balanced. However I can't say the same thing for some other animals like the Hippopotamus.
 
TBH I’ve finally, and reluctantly, made the decision to turn off the space requirements. They make it impossible to make habitats for a lot of species - most notably the dwarf caiman and, even more, the platypus. It wouldn’t be so much of an issue if the space requirements had a less extreme effect on welfare rather than being almost the only factor that substantially influences it.
 
TBH I’ve finally, and reluctantly, made the decision to turn off the space requirements. They make it impossible to make habitats for a lot of species - most notably the dwarf caiman and, even more, the platypus. It wouldn’t be so much of an issue if the space requirements had a less extreme effect on welfare rather than being almost the only factor that substantially influences it.
Very much this. I play in challenge mode and struggle everytime to build anything that doesnt look ridiculously big compared to species like Caiman, Fennec Fox, Meerkat or Prairie Dog (and a bunch of others). To make it worse, the huge hitboxes futher reduce the walkable area in the enclosure with each rock and plant I place, thus making me build it even bigger.
 
monitors and, especially, the platypus (amongst others)
smaller creatures needing way to much
struggle everytime to build anything that doesnt look ridiculously big compared to species like Caiman, Fennec Fox, Meerkat or Prairie Dog (and a bunch of others). To make it worse, the huge hitboxes futher reduce the walkable area in the enclosure with each rock and plant I place, thus making me build it even bigger.
most notably the dwarf caiman
Without a doubt, this is one of the biggest design issues in the game. Small animals dominate zoo collections, but in the game all small creatures are either exhibited in glass boxes that are identical in size and shape or end up in huge habitats. The jump from single sized glass boxes to large habitats is ridiculous. This needs to be addressed or every zoo in the game will continue looking unrealistic as long as you play according to intended game mechanics.
 
This is the main reason I use the Planet Zoo plus mod, of all of them it's the most useful. Not only does it majorly shrink the land requirements, it also gives all animals the juvenile hit box sizes so the animals can move about their habitats more realistically. It does mean you have to be careful about escapes as the adults can now wiggle out of a habitat like the juvies do. I don't use the mod for the ride adjustments or anything else (there are an assortment of useful changes) but the space issue is a huge boon.
 
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This is the main reason I use the Planet Zoo plus mod, of all of them it's the most useful. Not only does it majorly shrink the land requirements, it also gives all animals the juvenile hit box sizes so the animals can move about their habitats more realistically. It does mean you have to be careful about escapes as the adults can now wiggle out of a habitat like the juvies do. I don't use the mod for the ride adjustments or anything else (there are an assortment of useful changes) but the space issue is a huge boon.

Yeah, once I start using mods that’s one of the first I’ll be getting - for the moment, though, I don’t like having to muck around to find out what’s going wrong every time a dlc comes out… but that’s certainly on my list when I do!
 
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