About this exploring business
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Read the notes; essentially every commander has the opportunity to explore a system and all its objects for themselves, as it has always been. But now with 1.1 the first one you come across that has never been detailed scanned by another player will show up as discovered by you when you successfully sell that data at a station. Upon which you will receive a bonus amount of money for being the first to discover it and your commanders name will appear on the object when selected/moused over in the System Map.
Does this apply to asteroid belts? Do you have to explore all asteroids before you get the credit for it?
Even triple bonus does not make exploring asteroids worthwhile, since you get zero from them. But you will get your name in lights if you are the first to get zero from them. And you get your name on each one, if you are really keen.
Sure, but then you don't really explore for the money....its for the bragging rights and maybe get your rank up to elite.
But if there is 1 belt, but 4 asteroid clusters, would you have to scan all 4 clusters and sell it to get the first explored credit? Or simply 1 cluster to get credit for the belt? Because you can't actually see all 3 or 4 in the system view.
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You get the credit for each object. And a cluster is an object. Do all 4, and you get 4 credits. I think. Since I have not scanned an asteroid for over a month, I am not sure.
I'm not sure you are understanding... each system object can be detail scanned (basic, intermediate, or advanced) to be "discovered" by you. But only if you were the first to successfully do so, i.e. make it back to a station and sell the data. So in one system I can scan an asteroid belt, the main star, one or two planets, and each of those objects I get a varying amount of credits based on their value. If I happen to be the first to discover any of them I will also be named on that object and get some bonus money when sold.
This does not apply to just the Star System you pick on the Galaxy map - all the ones you haven't been to that are not part of major civilized space, will be unexplored to you. If you have a Discovery Scanner and any level of Detail Surface Scanner you just start identifying objects and find out if you are the first on any. Which is worth doing because you are still earning money along the way.
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I don't know why they got rid of buying data (beyond technical reasons). Was never explained.
I don't think they got rid of buying data (at least I didn't see that they did, but I could have missed it). Data that was available for purchase was data that was more commonly known because of it being more traveled or part of civilized space. So the systems around populated or well traveled regions did have an option to buy but many less traveled or in the further reaches just would not be purchaseable and they were there for you to discover all the objects yourself.
The only part where your explanation seems to break down, however, is that you don't simply "scan" an "asteroid belt" as a single object because each "asteroid belt" can be anywhere between 4 and 8 SEPARATE objects.
Now, I am uncertain whether you can actually SEE who the first discoverer is from the ship view. However, in the system view you can only see one discoverer.
Now the explanation that would make sense is that I would have to explore EVERY INDIVIDUAL CLUSTER of asteroids before I can get credit for the whole belt. But on the other hand, if all it took is scanning an entire cluster to get a feeling for the entire belt (for example, whether it was rocky or metallic) then I'd be wasting my time scanning every cluster when I can simply scan one cluster and sell it at the station to get "first discovered" credit.
Since I'm far in the black right now, I won't be able to confirm this for myself until I get back sadly, which is why I am asking. =/
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I don't get only one thing, and i'll try to explain with my poor english...
Let's suppose I am the first one to scan a system. I don't want to return to a station to sell the scan. If another player scans that system right after me and sells the data before I do, did I still get credited as the discoverer or the second player does?
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Don't shoot me, i'm only a mostly harmless Explorer!
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Do you not just buy data now in the Galaxy Map for systems close enough?
Yea, you are able to buy from the galaxy map if you are docked at a station. You just have to individually select each star and buy the data.
Yes, sorry I'm being a idiot
It used to be on the UC interface you could buy in batches nearby systems but yes you can buy it per system now from the map.
I don't get this 'unexplored by you' business. There are hundreds of systems within inhabited space area that I've never explored, yet they don't show up as unexplored to me.
I see star names and planet names.
Selling your data to Universal Cartographics should flag a system (or at least those bodies in it that were scanned) as explored to everyone who visits later. It's common sense to me.
I shouldn't get paid for discovering something some else has already discovered and submitted.
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From what I can gather a system is not truly explored until its bodies have been scanned with with the detailed surface scanner.
Yes i think when a system has been explored before (detailed scanned that is) it should at least be shown as buyable data. It's not logical there are so much unexplored systems within inhabited space and when you detail explore them they are already discovered by someone else...
At least to me it's not motivating to explore all those systems only for myself. Maybe it's an idea to show alle explored before systems at least as buyable data so you know you have to go out into the galaxy to explore really new unexplored systems...
At least to me it's not motivating to explore all those systems only for myself. Maybe it's an idea to show alle explored before systems at least as buyable data so you know you have to go out into the galaxy to explore really new unexplored systems...
There seems to be a specific area (habited systems) that it is almost impossible to find an unfound system. But I do not see the point in travelling into deep space to search then having to come back to the area with habitable systems. There should be stations scattered throughout the galaxy so you can sell data, repair etc.
I may be missing something here but once i venture outside the area with allied systems there seems to be no life. Are they saving the other side of galaxy for players in a thousand years or something?
I may be missing something here but once i venture outside the area with allied systems there seems to be no life. Are they saving the other side of galaxy for players in a thousand years or something?