Absurd out of fuel situation.

Next time turn off flight assist, the thrusters are still preventing the gravity from affecting your ship, but with fa off it will drift down
Not a bug, flight assist counters all motion unless inputted by the pilot, with flight assist off there is no countering to any outside motions

How do thrusters compensate for gravity with no fuel?
 
large.gif
 
How do thrusters compensate for gravity with no fuel?

Thrusters don't compensate for gravity when you run out of fuel, give it a try over a planet. They will continue to compensate for a stations rotational correction due to a side effect from combat around early beta and gamma. NPC's used to drift away once we disabled their thrusters, devs made a change that will allow NPC's to come to halt once thrusters are offline. NPC's always keep assist on.

Same thing happens to our ships as long as flight assist is on or switched on whilst thrusters are off line or fuel is at zero.
 
Last edited:
Fuel rats. On it, done that, refuelled, left :D

[video=youtube;vP9LcwWwIcE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP9LcwWwIcE[/video]

Also glad I found this. I was going to post in the irc website chat but it took an age to upload :p


I've just tested it and fuel transfer is possible inside a station, fire off all the limpets you like....
Why a Fuel Rat would bother to save someone trapped inside a station in BETA though, I don't know.

Usually because they've travelled a long way to get there and it's faster for us to scurry across a jump than them start from square 1 and have to do 20 jumps to get there.

Oh and because usually its an interesting/fun experience for both sides :)

Don't forget the OP has logged out. The ship will be several km away from the station when they log back in.
Best to call the fuel rats with a critical/code red situation. But I'm not sure if they'll take a beta corvette stranded outside a station seriously. :)

Reminds me of a banner someone has. "We don't take ourselves too seriously. We take rescuing you seriously" :D
 
Last edited:
Don't forget the OP has logged out. The ship will be several km away from the station when they log back in.
Ah, I missed that. I read an "I've" as an "If" and thought he was still hovering.

Glad to see everything got sorted. Not the huge drama it could have been (I'd love to have seen limpet transfer inside the station, especially with the ship so close to the pad) but at least the Rats didn't have as far to travel as they have to some of their more traditional clients.
 
Other than refueling, another CMDR should be able to push your ship onto the landing pad.

I haven't tried this, but I have rescued NPCs that were stuck inside a station by pushing their ships out of the mailslot.
 
I decided to call the Rats and they were happy and willing to help, even though it was in Beta. I wouldn't have been upset if they'd said they don't do Beta.
I'm told that if I'd turned FA off then I would have drifted down onto the pad but I didn't think of that, and anyway it does seem strange that FA can hold position without fuel.
The rescue was a great experience and it also means that if I ever have to call the Rats for real, I know how the system works.
I've never had a fuel problem before, it was just a bit of carelessness in Beta.
Many thanks to the Rats that helped me out.
And btw, I got my passenger back to Jameson with 11 minutes to spare....
 
So I'm playing about in Beta, on my way back from a tourist mission. I know that I'll have to refuel at some point but I let the level get a bit lower than intended. A look around the local area gives me a system I can get to (just!) so off I go.
I get into the system and head towards the starport. I very soon get "main fuel tank empty" message but there's still a bit in the reserve tank so I think I'm OK.
I got into the station and I was literally a few metres away from the pad when fuel ran out and thrusters etc shut down.
Situation as shown below;-
http://i.imgur.com/RYkzpcZ.png
So I'm less than 5 metres from the pad, in atmosphere, with landing gear lowered and hatch open.
Firstly, without thrusters shouldn't the ship drift down to the pad? We're in low gravity, not no gravity!
Also, I could just climb out and ask for help, I can jump that far (in low gravity!)
I can't get Fuel Rat help inside a station.
I've logged out of that game and I suspect that because I haven't completed docking, that logging back in will drop me out in space, where I will die......
I'm tempted to log this as a bug, the ship should not stay locked in place when there's gravity and no thrusters to counteract it.
I know this is in Beta, but I'm thinking this same situation could (unlikely I admit) occur in the main game (I nearly said real life then!)
I am wondering if I should contact the Fuel Rats, as if I'm going to pop out in space with just my oxygen reserve to keep me alive, they could have someone waiting for me.
I know that currently it's just a problem with my Beta but the procedure could come in handy in the main game later, if it works....

I always thought that something like that could happen.

There should really be a mechanic where if you run out of fuel within a certain range of a station, you will be auto-tractored into the Station at a cost. In reality, if a ship grinds to a halt 100 feet from the port, nobody just leaves it there. They`ll pull it in, even for free.
 
Last edited:
In reality, if a ship grinds to a halt 100 feet from the port, nobody just leaves it there. They`ll pull it in, even for free.

Not in the Elite universe. They would sink it for loitering. If it was a cruise liner with few k passengers aboard... they would sink it regardless.
 
Hah, I think just a day or two ago I posted that this exact scenario was my very first character death. Thankfully I was just in an Adder. But yeah, station security blew me up for being two metres away from the correct landing position. (I was actually set down on the pad, just not quite in line.)
 
Back
Top Bottom