Add a story quest for noobs so they can't refund with steam
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... well then
it is a compelling product. that's why we're here.
and how many people are returning the product?
and how many people are returning the product?
The problem is Steam. They should never have gone with steam in first place. Every transaction now from even the FD web store related to Elite dangerous Steam gets a cut of that.
FD is just giving money away to steam.
Instead FD should just advertised on their own.
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I doubt you can find public statistics for that, but I personally know a few people who have, and their are some steam forum posts. Short attention spans coupled with a steep learning curve.
The tutorials should be part of a story. One that doesn't make them the most specialist person in the whole galaxy but involves them and shows them how to make their own story.
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I would think that the best way to attract and keep customers is to sell them a compelling product and treat them with respect from the start. But that's just me.
How very dare you!
elite was and still is a hard game to understand. it's never really had a 'story' as such, just a 'find your own way' game, even when it comes to the instructions on how to play! lol!
maybe they need some sort of honest parental warning type thing. like 'Warning! There is no story! There are no instructions! You'll love it or you'll hate it! If you love it, prepare to lose a large chunk of your life to it!'
People quit eve online, including me, but it still has a reasonable playerbase.
Look at it this way, without steam they wouldn't have sold to the extra customers. It's pretty much extra money as long as steam gets a cut.
Sorry, but let me get this right.....
A direct sale on the FD site Steam take a cut? How/What/Why.......?
Only if you linked your E: D account with your Steam account. I bought from the FD store, downloaded from them, and have bought some skins from them. Steam never saw a penny.
If you linked your accounts then it MAY be that Steam get a cut of your purchases. I don't know how that would include things like T-Shirts, mugs, or books [even MP3 copies of books], but it may include skins for use in-game.
FD went with Steam knowing full well that Steam would take a cut. The reason? Even though they're getting less money per customer, they're still getting a much bigger volume of sales due to the humongous power Steam has when it comes to exposure.
None of the other well known digital distributor can even dream of competing with Steam on equal footing, so what do you think would be FD's chances of selling more on their own than they do via Steam? They did everything on their own around launch because they relied on space enthusiasts and old Elite fans buying the game full price on their own store and spreading the word. But at some point certainly they figured everyone who already knew about the game had made their decision and it was time to open the game to a new audience that otherwise would never have heard about the game.
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This wouldn't make a difference for the most part, if players dislike a game its normally in the first few hours, and I'm totally against any kind of entrapment, as consumers it's important to retain our rights for refunds in products we discover that we dislike, or feel we have been misled with smoke and mirrors, or snake oil sales tactics.
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Iirc it's only a 2 hour limit. It's not enough time to experience the game anyway.
If they do return it in that time it's no big loss since I doubt they would have bought it without the refund system. You mmight even draw in a few people who wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
If they do return it in that time it's no big loss since I doubt they would have bought it without the refund system. You mmight even draw in a few people who wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
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Don't send this thread to the threadnaught with your obvious muckraking, despite the pure ridiculousness of OP's suggestion.
EVERY single game i own is on steam, however ED isn't, and won't, I've decided. AND they have given me the choice, I've even booked marked the forum post.
Last night i had just purchased the Vulture Tactical paint pack, Loving the Olive skin
Have some support FD, Steam have had plenty of my support in the last 15 years.
Last night i had just purchased the Vulture Tactical paint pack, Loving the Olive skin
Have some support FD, Steam have had plenty of my support in the last 15 years.