Advice for a non Explorer. The 5000ly Palin thing.
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You could take a look at the explorer's local nebula map, and see if anything takes your fancy:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/132714-Local-Nebula-Map-for-Explorers
Note that making a bee-line for nebulae is a sure-fire way to follow in everyone's footsteps though. If you intend to honk systems on the way to earn some dosh, you are better off taking a bit of a dogleg. You should also probably be aware of the permit-locked area in the vicinity of Barnard's loop, which can make heading that way awkward.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/132714-Local-Nebula-Map-for-Explorers
Note that making a bee-line for nebulae is a sure-fire way to follow in everyone's footsteps though. If you intend to honk systems on the way to earn some dosh, you are better off taking a bit of a dogleg. You should also probably be aware of the permit-locked area in the vicinity of Barnard's loop, which can make heading that way awkward.
i recommend eta carinae, the eta carinae nebula, the real galaxy supergiant x carinae, and statue of liberty nebula... somewhere around there you'll hit the 5000 ly. that arm is much less explored, and the views are amazing.
alternatively go to a system out of the bubble, and pick up a >5000 ly passenger mission. one of my favourites, "Earth-Like Dance with Giant" is half way of your distance. but almost all of those passenger missions are leading to systems worth visiting!
enjoy!
alternatively go to a system out of the bubble, and pick up a >5000 ly passenger mission. one of my favourites, "Earth-Like Dance with Giant" is half way of your distance. but almost all of those passenger missions are leading to systems worth visiting!
enjoy!
Yup, I remembered that after I'd posted. No bonus for 'first honk'. As you say though, get off the beaten track and first discovery bonuses for proper scans can add up.
To get off the beaten track it still seems true that a lot of the time your best bet is to remember that the map is 3D. Go up or down a couple of hundred light years and you'll often be sorted - if you try going off to one side you'll often need to go a lot further to find virgin systems.
I just grabbed a passenger mission in order to give it a purpose.
Just don't forget that it had to 5k out, not round trip.
Seen a few complain they did 3k out think the round trip counted as 6k lol
I just took a job for 7k out.
Just don't forget that it had to 5k out, not round trip.
Seen a few complain they did 3k out think the round trip counted as 6k lol
I just took a job for 7k out.
I was in the same situation but ended up deciding to haul my Asp to Colonia. Furthest I will ever go by far. Recently stopped at the outpost in the Eagle Nebula. Currently a little ways out from there, on my way to check out my first black hole system. Think i'm a bit past 5k ly away from the bubble now. Not turning back though. My bubble days are behind me for awhile. Sometimes you just gotta know when to leave.
When I did this I initially head out the way through Barnard's loop etc. Unfortunately I couldn't get enough distance in that direction so had to head corewards. Of course this depends on your exploration skill and ships jump distance. But I guess if you're asking this question both may be quite low like mine was at this juncture in my ED career!
Basically it's a lot easier doing this going towards SagA* than away
Basically it's a lot easier doing this going towards SagA* than away
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Since OP mentioned nebulae, here is a list of all the real nebulae in the game. Out of these, the following have unique models of their own:
Barnard's Loop, Bow-tie, Bubble, Butterfly, Cat's Eye, Crab, Fine Ring, Flame, Hind, Horsehead (and cluster), LBN 623, Lemon Slice, Messier 78, NGC 6337 (now with an asteroid base), Orion, Pleiades, Ring, Veil Nebula West. (Veil Nebula East uses one of the generic models.)
Some might be unreachable depending on your jump range (and the Lemon Slice is unreachable for all), but these nebulae are sights you won't see anywhere else.
Oh, and you might want to visit some procedurally generated nebulae too. The nearest one, Traikaae AA-A h2, is just within your 5,000 ly distance, and although I believe its systems have been thoroughly explored by now, they can still offer some spectacular views. You see, proc. gen. nebulae can be in sectors with high enough star density that plenty of systems will be inside the nebula. In those, the nebula will cover the entire skybox, or most of it. Land on the night side of planets if you can, or just fly into their shadow if you can't, and enjoy the view.
Barnard's Loop, Bow-tie, Bubble, Butterfly, Cat's Eye, Crab, Fine Ring, Flame, Hind, Horsehead (and cluster), LBN 623, Lemon Slice, Messier 78, NGC 6337 (now with an asteroid base), Orion, Pleiades, Ring, Veil Nebula West. (Veil Nebula East uses one of the generic models.)
Some might be unreachable depending on your jump range (and the Lemon Slice is unreachable for all), but these nebulae are sights you won't see anywhere else.
Oh, and you might want to visit some procedurally generated nebulae too. The nearest one, Traikaae AA-A h2, is just within your 5,000 ly distance, and although I believe its systems have been thoroughly explored by now, they can still offer some spectacular views. You see, proc. gen. nebulae can be in sectors with high enough star density that plenty of systems will be inside the nebula. In those, the nebula will cover the entire skybox, or most of it. Land on the night side of planets if you can, or just fly into their shadow if you can't, and enjoy the view.
Apart from the sights to see, leave the guns and HRPs at home - it will make the 5kly year trip a lot quicker.
Also swap out your shield for a light weight D version, as small as you can fit.
Don't get killed on the way back.
Also swap out your shield for a light weight D version, as small as you can fit.
Don't get killed on the way back.
Any time you want to reduce the salt in your forum diet, come and visit us.
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Then find you actually enjoy exploring, hang around in this forum a bit longer... realise that banter, taking the micky, and tongue in cheek comments are the norm. We're all friends in here... apart from Stupid_Hippy of course. I hate that guy.
As suggested pick yourself a target and go for it. I would suggest the Rosette Nebula, there are some fungal life forms there worth visiting if you haven't seen them before;
Rosette Sector EL-Y D15 2 A, Lat -20.53, Lon 151.35, the star is 5,333ly from Sol, so if you haven't seen the organics before it fulfils two objectives, distance and curiosity.
Rosette Sector EL-Y D15 2 A, Lat -20.53, Lon 151.35, the star is 5,333ly from Sol, so if you haven't seen the organics before it fulfils two objectives, distance and curiosity.
Look up the outfits of the explorer ships in tnis section.
Basically, best fsd (engineered for max range)
Best fuel scoop you can fit/afford
Minimum mass thrusters, shields, scanners
Go unarmed.
You're aiming for as much range as possible, and as little time scooping as possible.
As an example, my AspX has a jump range of just over 50ly, and will scoop a refill in one pass of a star.
A long range DBX, jump range over 54 ly, requires about 3/4 of a sun's orbit to refuel.
The time taken for 1000 ly is slightly less for the AspX because of the speed of scooping as well as the lower risk of misjudging the sun's o fly zone.
Reckon on about 1 minute per jump and scoop.
Ship choice depends on your budget, you can get a hauler over 30 ly range, don't try a T9, courier, corvette, FdL, vulture for long distances they can do it, but will be much slower
Basically, best fsd (engineered for max range)
Best fuel scoop you can fit/afford
Minimum mass thrusters, shields, scanners
Go unarmed.
You're aiming for as much range as possible, and as little time scooping as possible.
As an example, my AspX has a jump range of just over 50ly, and will scoop a refill in one pass of a star.
A long range DBX, jump range over 54 ly, requires about 3/4 of a sun's orbit to refuel.
The time taken for 1000 ly is slightly less for the AspX because of the speed of scooping as well as the lower risk of misjudging the sun's o fly zone.
Reckon on about 1 minute per jump and scoop.
Ship choice depends on your budget, you can get a hauler over 30 ly range, don't try a T9, courier, corvette, FdL, vulture for long distances they can do it, but will be much slower
The Eagle nebula is pretty cool - all the stars (hundreds) are arranged in columns, and there are several (if not lots of) ELWs there to be scanned. Unfortunately, it seems that every single body in the whole nebula has been first discovered by the same CMDR - That's just greedy.
Alternatively, if you search for (I think) S71 it will show you a cluster with a dozen or more black holes. (It's a bit tricky to get to though - near the rim, so long-range routing is/was rather borked. Max ~300LY routes once you start having probs.) It's also near the Heart & Soul nebulas.
Alternatively, if you search for (I think) S71 it will show you a cluster with a dozen or more black holes. (It's a bit tricky to get to though - near the rim, so long-range routing is/was rather borked. Max ~300LY routes once you start having probs.) It's also near the Heart & Soul nebulas.
Take a passenger Mission for that distance. That's what I did. It will automatically take you to an interesting Sightseeing spot and you will earn some additional millions (above the Exploration data) in the process.
I find it most soothing just to fly straight out into some un-remarkable area and check out any thing that hides as small black dots on the galaxy map. You can find the black dots if you scroll around and let the bright milkyway highlight it for you.