Aegis Must Be Reinstated!

[jvahle3]

Thanks to the efforts of the Galactic Community we've come to learn more about the truth behind Salvation then ever before and its clear, the downfall of Aegis was all apart of their plan. Certainly, Salvation is nothing more then the public face for 'the witch' who butchered the brave crew of the Alexandria and stole the Guardian artifacts for the purpose of provoking the Thargoids.

What a ruse Salvation has concocted: claim that their 'detection network' predicts an attack in a system, bring the artifacts to that system to lure the Thargoids, claim they were right and promises to save everyone, fire a big flashy weapon while quietly moving the artifacts out of the system so the Thargoids leave. All perfectly orchestrated to ensure public support.

Azimuth Biochemicals has become a criminal syndicate, looking to explore unethical research into this alien race. How many humans will be used as guinea pigs? Without oversight we will be walking into a dark future.

Aegis must be reinstated and given a much wider remit. It should not only be responsible for research but also for policing all Guardian and Thargoid research in the galaxy, ensuring that we don't lose our humanity in trying to survive this fight. As well a new Anti-Xeno force should be established and trained by the best independent anti xeno Commanders in the galaxy.

We can not trust Salvation, a shadowy figure who won't even tell us who they are. Let us put our faith in an organization truly dedicated to humanity. We must ratify the Sirius Treaty and not fall for Salvation's tricks!

 

[Darth Ender]

I dont know, we seem to be doing pretty good for the last couple years.

I've yet to see any impact to the thargoid threat. I'm pretty sure they're not even real. Just fake news spread by the various governments in power to keep their citizens afraid so they can take more of their rights away.

Hashtag: ThargoidsAreFake

 

[CMDR Saigon]

Thanks to the efforts of the Galactic Community we've come to learn more about the truth behind Salvation then ever before and its clear, the downfall of Aegis was all apart of their plan. Certainly, Salvation is nothing more then the public face for 'the witch' who butchered the brave crew of the Alexandria and stole the Guardian artifacts for the purpose of provoking the Thargoids.

What a ruse Salvation has concocted: claim that their 'detection network' predicts an attack in a system, bring the artifacts to that system to lure the Thargoids, claim they were right and promises to save everyone, fire a big flashy weapon while quietly moving the artifacts out of the system so the Thargoids leave. All perfectly orchestrated to ensure public support.

Azimuth Biochemicals has become a criminal syndicate, looking to explore unethical research into this alien race. How many humans will be used as guinea pigs? Without oversight we will be walking into a dark future.

Aegis must be reinstated and given a much wider remit. It should not only be responsible for research but also for policing all Guardian and Thargoid research in the galaxy, ensuring that we don't lose our humanity in trying to survive this fight. As well a new Anti-Xeno force should be established and trained by the best independent anti xeno Commanders in the galaxy.

We can not trust Salvation, a shadowy figure who won't even tell us who they are. Let us put our faith in an organization truly dedicated to humanity. We must ratify the Sirius Treaty and not fall for Salvation's tricks!

CMDR, Thargoids came in peace, humanity shredded them to pieces...and CMDRs (including I) are proud owners of Gauss Cannons issued by both AEGIS & Salvation. Such hypocrisy, violence & lack of reverence for fellow intelligent beings in our shared galaxy! CMDRs out there, like I, should be excommunicated and sent to exile forever in the most distant star from Sol!

 

[angusmadmac1]

I think it should read we cannot trust humanity . Can we eat it ?no, Do we understand it ? No .Then we shall kill it .... We poke it with a short blunt stick and then complain when we get attacked . We didn't do nuffin guv honest . We is peaceful and innocent .

 

[Araviel]

just another stage in the plan I think. Aegis failed in the goal of bringing the superpowers together, so now they attempt salvation.

 

[Rainbro]

Aegis started off as a research organisation, and then was highjacked within weeks. It was then used to escalate the Thargoid conflict so that humanity could be militarized and to secure meta-alloys. They invaded Thargoid territory and manipulated the Thargoid's attempts to stop us, luring them into the bubble and using their restrained retaliation as justification.

The ones responsible for highjacking it are likely to be the same who were responsible for the Alexandria. When questioned about the artefacts luring Thargoids, the Azimuth agent stated "That was the plan all along".

This was before Cornsar. He was possibly talking about the Alexandria itself attracting Thargoids, either to trigger an attack on Sol or as a smokescreen for Azimuth's attack. But that would not be possible unless Azimuth had control over Aegis and could manipulate them into gathering the artefacts in Thargoid territory, a plan that makes no sense unless you want the consequences.

Aegis has been compromised for a long time now. We are better off without them - their legacy is a lot of dead humans and aliens, and a big profit from the meta-alloys. They certainly can't be trusted to fight those who control them, even if that were remotely within their range of "expertise".

Salvation's role in this is not yet clear, we should not jump to conclusions. So it needs to be cleared up. But not by Aegis.

 

[jvahle3]

Aegis started off as a research organisation, and then was highjacked within weeks. It was then used to escalate the Thargoid conflict so that humanity could be militarized and to secure meta-alloys. They invaded Thargoid territory and manipulated the Thargoid's attempts to stop us, luring them into the bubble and using their restrained retaliation as justification.

The ones responsible for highjacking it are likely to be the same who were responsible for the Alexandria. When questioned about the artefacts luring Thargoids, the Azimuth agent stated "That was the plan all along".

This was before Cornsar. He was possibly talking about the Alexandria itself attracting Thargoids, either to trigger an attack on Sol or as a smokescreen for Azimuth's attack. But that would not be possible unless Azimuth had control over Aegis and could manipulate them into gathering the artefacts in Thargoid territory, a plan that makes no sense unless you want the consequences.

Aegis has been compromised for a long time now. We are better off without them - their legacy is a lot of dead humans and aliens, and a big profit from the meta-alloys. They certainly can't be trusted to fight those who control them, even if that were remotely within their range of "expertise".

Salvation's role in this is not yet clear, we should not jump to conclusions. So it needs to be cleared up. But not by Aegis.

"Salvation's role in this is not yet clear, we should not jump to conclusions. So it needs to be cleared up. But not by Aegis."

This last line offers great insight. You are correct in your wisdom in my view. We must work hard and uncover the truth behind both organizations. Only then can we make a decision.

 

[Nuts0]

Salvation conveniently used independant pilots to locate then obtain results of the proteus crew's research, then proceeded to develop a weapon of mass destruction and lured the Thargoids into conflict to tests it's weapon and in the process further cementing its position as a pretended deus ex machina (refering to the Cornsar plot).

Salvation motives are awefully close to those of The Witch and Azimuth Biochems : using xeno technology to develop weaponry of mass destruction and leverage this position to access power.

Wether or not Salvation is actually the Witch, it definetely has benefited from mass murder (The Alexandria crew and Cornsar victims) and should be regarded as a dangerous protagonist.

 

[Mako Kai]

Aegis has its issues but I trust Salvation about as far as I can throw him/her/it/them. Salvation’s methods is going to get a Thargoid Hive ship dropped on us.

I propose a third option. We trust neither and make the AXI the new Aegis. Any organization that has pilots that can kill a Hydra in a Sidewinder has my vote.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Human problem, we aliens aren't expecting it to end well for us anyway.
You are nothing if not predictable as it stands....
We don't expect you to care, just destroy.

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

I don't think you've interpreted things correctly.
The Witch runs Azimuth, and Azimuth hijacked the Alexandria; this is true. But as of yet, there is no link to Salvation.
We do know The Witch/Azimuth sees the thargoids as a resource, to be studied and exploited for profit. They don't care about the risk posed to humanity.
Salvation, on the other hand, wants to completely eliminate them. Hence his dislike for AEGIS; they were extremely incompetent as well as being apparently compromised.
It would be very surprising if Salvation and The Witch are working together, given their completely different goals.

 

[Astaran]

Oh boy, the conspiracy theories in here are like reading the comment section of an average news article on Facebook.

 

[Rhaazerus Orzhov]

Welp, this year we'll see the finale of the Azimuth saga, so I guess we'll find out who the nefarious baddies are.
All I'm saying is, "Salvation", "The Witch", Azimuth, AEGIS; They're all a lot of sketchy folks and I don't trust any of 'em.

 

[Phill P]

I don't think you've interpreted things correctly.
The Witch runs Azimuth, and Azimuth hijacked the Alexandria; this is true. But as of yet, there is no link to Salvation.
We do know The Witch/Azimuth sees the thargoids as a resource, to be studied and exploited for profit. They don't care about the risk posed to humanity.
Salvation, on the other hand, wants to completely eliminate them. Hence his dislike for AEGIS; they were extremely incompetent as well as being apparently compromised.
It would be very surprising if Salvation and The Witch are working together, given their completely different goals.

It's like the constantly repeated claim that Salvation lured the Thargoids into Cornsar, usually coupled with the accusation that he has no problem sacrificing people to test his weapons. It makes no sense. If he didn't care about human life why bother warning Cornsar at all? Why not just do it anyway? And why, if that was his plan, wasn't his weapon ready to use when they arrived, instead of taking 4 days after they attacked to assemble and use which still needed us to deliver the parts for it? Someone who was premeditated would have all that in place, ready to go.

It's equally possible that things are exactly what they seemed. Salvation was working on the weapon and an early detection system, got a warning from it as he said, couldn't ignore it and tried to warn people, got ignored and then it was a mad dash to get his weapon assembled to do what he could.

None of which means I think he is whiter than white, I don't think anyone is because that would simply be rubbish storytelling, and I am not happy with the way we have gone from a bit of research to a superweapon so fast, but it is quite sad that in the 34th century the human race still act like insular hicks who think stranger in town=automatically criminal. Shame they haven't outgrown that. It's been quite shocking to see how many people are willing to condemn others just on somebody else's say so and are ready to support the lynch mob mentality over the rule of law, whether it's kicking down the doors of innocent citizens and accusing them of terrorism or making equally wild accusations against anything else they don't understand.

It's like watching people argue over who is better at missing the point.

 

[Leadfoot]

Welp, this year we'll see the finale of the Azimuth saga, so I guess we'll find out who the nefarious baddies are.
All I'm saying is, "Salvation", "The Witch", Azimuth, AEGIS; They're all a lot of sketchy folks and I don't trust any of 'em.

FD will soon introduce a new character to further confuse and confound the situation. Expect contact soon from Salvation's nemisis: Pessimism. Yes, Pessimism will cause many of those in the seats of power across the bubble to just give up, grab as much of their money, ships will be filled with gold, and they'll had towards the tail end of the Orion Arm of the galaxy, find a nice ELW there, settle down, clear a little space for each of them, build a small castle, maybe add running water, everyone gets a BBQ grill and rotate weekend parties around every week. All based on what the character Pessimism tells them about our future. I'm sure he'll be pessimistic about it.

Of course, the rest of us will head out to Colonia. Who needs all those crowned-heads anyway? Well, other than a weekly soap-opera of who did what to whom. Mayb we'll stay in touch with them via Galnet.

 

[Stelar 7]

The goids are a clear and present danger and need to follow the example of the guardians, by going extinct.

Milky way for Humani-tay

 

[angusmadmac1]

The Humans are a clear and present danger and need to follow the example of the guardians , by going extinct .

Save our milky way ...

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

It's like watching people argue over who is better at missing the point.

Don't forget the part where Ram Tah analyzed Salvation's superweapon components and discovered they were Guardian in origin. Which should have surprised absolutely no-one (we were the ones that retrieved the test data for him from the Proteus, after all) but was instead taken as further evidence of guilt and deception. Never mind the fact that Ram Tah himself produced the initial human-guardian weapons, mass produced and distributed with the assistance of AEGIS.

 

[Jack Winter]

What about INRA, the Club, the Alliance (Gal Corp?), the Turner family, or even the Thargoid civil war?

Is Salome finally dead, or has she come back again, could she be Salvation?

Some of it old, and maybe some of it still relevant? Are FDev interested in generating content in the sandbox, or do we have to bring our own tools? Maybe give us more tools to create content?

At the very least we still have GalNet and CGs, so that's somewhat encouraging.

 

[Nuts0]

It's like the constantly repeated claim that Salvation lured the Thargoids into Cornsar, usually coupled with the accusation that he has no problem sacrificing people to test his weapons. It makes no sense. If he didn't care about human life why bother warning Cornsar at all? Why not just do it anyway? And why, if that was his plan, wasn't his weapon ready to use when they arrived, instead of taking 4 days after they attacked to assemble and use which still needed us to deliver the parts for it? Someone who was premeditated would have all that in place, ready to go.

It's equally possible that things are exactly what they seemed. Salvation was working on the weapon and an early detection system, got a warning from it as he said, couldn't ignore it and tried to warn people, got ignored and then it was a mad dash to get his weapon assembled to do what he could.

None of which means I think he is whiter than white, I don't think anyone is because that would simply be rubbish storytelling, and I am not happy with the way we have gone from a bit of research to a superweapon so fast, but it is quite sad that in the 34th century the human race still act like insular hicks who think stranger in town=automatically criminal. Shame they haven't outgrown that. It's been quite shocking to see how many people are willing to condemn others just on somebody else's say so and are ready to support the lynch mob mentality over the rule of law, whether it's kicking down the doors of innocent citizens and accusing them of terrorism or making equally wild accusations against anything else they don't understand.

It's like watching people argue over who is better at missing the point.

Wether or not Salvation is The Witch, the CEO of pharmasapien, a rogue guardian AI or Pranav Antal, it doesn't matter : the fact that its business is manufacturing weapons of mass destruction, that its known motivation is to commit genocide, and that it's justification is "trust me blindly and I'll save you from certain doom" brings a series of huge red flags to me.

The only other protagonists who have been identified with similar motives and modus operandi are INRA and Azimuth. Salvation is no different to them.